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Lara 11-30-2014 01:12 AM

I'm wondering if your lower back hit the ground as well as your head.

Having 3 numb toes on both feet after an injury would possibly indicate that you've landed on your back/ tail bone area and have some sort of pinched nerves problem going on. Swelling maybe or strained ligaments?

I remembered I'd asked another member here for a nerve chart I'd seen and it's at this url here

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...ghlight=nerves

What does your doctor say about this new numbness _Grace_?

I saw some posts in cycling forums regarding numb toes on both feet too... probably from the angle a cyclist sits on their bicycle.

Hockey 11-30-2014 08:27 AM

Hi Grace!

On the dizziness front, are you having any issues with your ears? Any ringing, pain or intermittent deafness in one ear? Those symptoms , especially the last two, can indicate damage to the auditory nerves, which can cause dizziness.

_Grace_ 11-30-2014 11:05 PM

Hi,
Second attempt at a reply- guess it timed out while I was rambling.
I am a total Epley 'victim' and hoping to pinpoint the dx this week.
Seems I have one of those 1% presentations.
Once that is resolved maybe the numbness is next.
I did notice some in my hands this past weekend- no lower back issues- just a 'crunchy' neck.

Need to send before it times out again!

Lara 11-30-2014 11:26 PM

When you log on to the forums, make sure you check the box next to your User Name and password.

Checking that box every time on log in should ensure that you don't time out.

Hopefully that fixes the problem.

Mark in Idaho 11-30-2014 11:36 PM

Numbness in the hands can be due to lower neck and upper back issues. I forget the specifics. It took a while for me to get sustained improvements. There can also be inflammation where the ribs attach to the vertebra that can cause problems. Some of us have cervical ribs (false ribs) that make this worse. My chiro referred me to a Physical Therapist to help with the cervical ribs issues. Fortunately, I found an expert and she slowly was able to get results.

I don't understand what you mean. "I am a total Epley 'victim' and hoping to pinpoint the dx this week.
Seems I have one of those 1% presentations."

Did you try it and it did not work ?

_Grace_ 11-30-2014 11:51 PM

Nystagmus in both eyes- need to go through the Epley maneuvers yet again to determine next steps.

Mark in Idaho 12-01-2014 02:27 AM

Is the nystagmus connected to your dizziness issues ? I have never heard of that connection. I have a positive horizontal nystagmus in my left eye and some minor convergence issues.

The Epley maneuver does no solve every dizziness issue. My Physical Therapist had a PT who used to work for her who was Dr Epley's research assistant when he was developing the maneuver. Judy was very impressed with Dr Epley's skills and knowledge.

mrsD 12-01-2014 03:52 AM

Grace, are you taking meclizine (Antivert) for the dizziness?

Some doctors recommend not using it because when inner ear signals go wonkey (injury, or viruses), the brain needs to recalibrate and adjust to the new signals. If that cycle is blocked by a drug, this new learning does not take place or is highly delayed.

Also if you suspect neck issues, you might try using magnesium lotion to relax the neck muscles, and take some pressure off the nerves that way. Magnesium also works on the NMDA pain receptors, and also improves blood circulation to the strained tissue areas.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...n+epsom+lotion

This is very inexpensive and works very well for relaxing tension in any muscle. Some stores have it on the shelf... WalMart and Walgreen's. It seems slow to enter local retail outlets though.
Just use a nickel's size dollop on your neck to loosen it up.
It works for feet and legs and back too. Try it on your insteps for your numb toes. (the skin is too thick on the bottoms of the feet, so don't apply it there). I will relax any leg tightness should you also have some strain in your back from your fall.

This simple solution, is really something everyone can benefit from at times. So do try it.

Hockey 12-01-2014 10:11 AM

Hi Grace,

I have a lot of tingling and numbness due to spinal cord damage. However, mine tends to be more generalized: my whole foot, as opposed to an individual toe. An exception to that are my shock like pains, which tend to be very specific. Sometimes it feels like a lightening bolt is shooting out of my index finger.

Speaking of feeling things, have you been tested for your sensitivity to pain and temperature?

There is a simple way that SOMETIMES helps identify if issues are related to neck instability: put on a cervical collar and see if the symptoms abate. Be mindful, however, to never wear a collar for an extend period, as this can lead to muscle atrophy and make matters even worse.

_Grace_ 12-01-2014 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockey (Post 1110649)
Hi Grace,

I have a lot of tingling and numbness due to spinal cord damage. However, mine tends to be more generalized: my whole foot, as opposed to an individual toe. An exception to that are my shock like pains, which tend to be very specific. Sometimes it feels like a lightening bolt is shooting out of my index finger.

Speaking of feeling things, have you been tested for your sensitivity to pain and temperature?

There is a simple way that SOMETIMES helps identify if issues are related to neck instability: put on a cervical collar and see if the symptoms abate. Be mindful, however, to never wear a collar for an extend period, as this can lead to muscle atrophy and make matters even worse.

Hi all,
I apologize in advance for not remembering all the questions. That is one of my cognitive side-effects. The Epley maneuvers last week (serial) were exhausting, and resulted in new (transient?) triggers, so the jury is still out on that.

The foot numbness is rather disconcerting- the fall was really a cascade of events and I don't recall any significant impact on my lower back. My neck pain seems to be descending- if that is possible. Major knots in my upper back now. Maybe it is working its way out? No meds for any of this.

I have gaze-tracking issues (= visual convergency?) which we are working on.
Left side motor skills deficit. Scary. Have homework for that.
Nystagmus is definitely provoked by postion.

I have not had any temperature/pain tests yet.

Need to attend to college financial aid applications, so need to sign off.
Take care.
Grace


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