So, has anyone read Norman Doidge's THe Brain's Way of Healing....I am going through it chapter by chapter. Its all about Neuroplasticity and the brain's internal mechanism for healing. Super Cool Stuff!!!

I would highly recommend it, the chapter that has really caught my eye is about Dr. Khan from Toronto, a surgeon turned laser enthusiast who claims to treat brain injuries with lasers, there is some really good science here....not saying it will work for everyone but for people that are on these forms for years on end, it couldn't hurt...right? If I had money I would ask Mark In Idaho to go try it...

http://drkahnblog.bioflexlaser.com/l...rain-injuries/

This sounds similar to the near-infrared LED therapy that was discussed earlier this year. The light spectrums used in the linked article are red to infrared which is both sides of the near-infrared spectrum. I wish the article explained more about the benefit for neurological injuries. The near-infrared LED therapy is believed to stimulated the mitochondria.

Laser therapy has been used for joint injuries for quite some time. Chiros often use it. My PT has used it for a decade or more. It is an inexpensive system with minimal risk if used at proper dosages so it does not require a highly trained therapist. There are LED systems for use at home that sell for $600 to $800.

We have had a few who have been treated by Dr Khan here on NT with varying results.

Mark, have you read the brains way of healing?

I've read many excerpts of his book but not the book directly. I disagree with him from a philosophical viewpoint. Some of his anecdotal examples may be true and there may be ways to help the brain heal but he mixes too much non-science with a little bit of real science. His claims about curing MS and Parkinson's and a few others are a bit out there.

Did you realize that Dr Kahn manufactures and sells/distributes the laser systems he so strongly espouses ? Quite a conflict of interest.

Well I agree that Dr.Kahn is selling the lasers and than using them to treat patiesnts, but the man is 85 years old, hasn't taken a day off sick for the past 50 years. He developed the system because no one else was doing it and obviously he is selling it to other hospitals.

If you read the book, this excerpt on this therapy is pretty fascinating, yes it is anecdotal evidence, but my god if it can work on me I would like to give it a try. Also, its not too expensive to see Dr. Khan $75 for the initial appointment, and then $75 for a treatment, depending on how many you will need. Pretty cheap, considering this doctor is mentioned in Dodge's books, is an ex surgeon who has performed thousands of surgeries and has now for some reason gone into lasers. There has to be something to it.

I suggest you check locally to see if there is a clinic that offers it. As I said, my PT has used it for over 10 years. Some of the local chiros do it and even advertise it on TV. The systems are sold by infomercials on TV for $600.

Using it for upper cervical injuries sounds great. The use for neurological injury is interesting but I don't think it is approved for such use yet. As I mentioned, the study mentioned earlier this year showed great promise for neuro issues using near infrared wave lengths.

Here is one link:

http://www.elixa.com/light/arrays.htm

Maybe someone can post a link to the previous thread about LED light therapy for neuro issues.

I can very well imagine how lasers COULD hurt. Especially if they're Star Trek lasers.

Often LED & LLLT (low level laser, cold laser, soft laser) get confused with each other as the are both light therapy devices. LED is often less costly than Laser.

LLLT should only take 20-30 seconds per spot treatment, where a LED will take 20-30 minutes per area.

I wish Dr. Khan's site had more detailed information, but I guess they don't want to give info away for free. I did read it is mostly the soft tissue and c spine being treated not the actual brain or head. I was wondering about that..

My chiro used a LLLT very successfully on my wrist, elbow, shoulder, foot, low back and c spine. Just a quick 20 seconds per spot and pain was gone.
Of course he did adjustments also.

When prices come down a bit more I plan to buy my own..
The brand name LLLT are running about 1-3 thousand still.
http://www.coldlasers.org/home-equipment/

Hi Jo *mar,

You said an LED takes 20-30 minutes in a spot, could you direct me to some more information on this?

And do you think that's the case with this one? I suppose a lot of it can be trial and error. I'm just trying to be careful and get some benefits.

Amazon.com : Aweek(R) 96 Leds IR Illuminators Light IR Infrared Light LED infrared light CCTV Camera Night-vision Fill Light for CCTV Security Camera, Standard 45deg Level Angle Visual Range : Camera & Photo

You need to look for medical therapeutic type LED usually red/blue lights..

like these types-
Amazon.com: led light therapy pain: Health & Household