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Old 07-09-2015, 03:49 PM #1
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Default Has anyone found that certain kinds of diets aid in recovery?

Wondering if different diets such as paleo, keto, low carb, vegan, vegetarian, etc. have affected anyones recovery in a beneficial way.
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Dear Bill,

It depends on you as a person but above this area at the top of the page are articles that will help you. I personally have found that eating a low sugar, alcohol free, varied diet gives me a regular pattern of energy and prevents me plunging into depression. It has also helped me get rid of the weight I gained from being in a wheelchair and inactive after the injury for so long.
There are many studies into what types of vitamins, minerals, diet etc to use for brain injury.

Do a little research and get in touch with Mark on this site, he knows his stuff.
Take care.
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I am a 36 yr old female who has played football, as a hobby, for 13 yrs. In July 2012, during a game I was slammed to the floor by two angry guys who hit into me so hard that one of them broke their ribs.
This knocked me back onto hard ground leaving me unconscious. I awoke to chronic head and neck pain, sickness and the inability to see or balance.
The paramedics made me walk to the ambulance, instead of placing me on a spinal board, where I was taken to the ER. I was hospitalised with suspected brain hemorrhage for 1 week, then on complete bed rest for 1 month, in a wheelchair for 2 months.

I have been left with PCS, moderate constant head pain, little short term memory, no memory of the accident, balance and sight problems, depression and exhaustion.
The worst problem is collapsing regularly. This has finally been diagnosed as Hemiplegic Migraines , these cause my brain to regularly shut down when I am tired and I then feel the full effects of a stroke (without the bleed on the brain!!) of which the symptoms last 2-4 days.
I have had 6 CT's, 2 MRI's and am under 3 specialists.

I believe everyday is one more towards improvement. Mainly I believe in the power of acceptance not the weakness of complacency or resignation.
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billybob,


Welcome to NeuroTalk.

The only diet other than a basic good nutrition that includes avoiding caffeine, alcohol, MSG, HFCS and other artificial additives (sweeteners) that has appeared to have any value is an anti-inflammation diet. But, not everyone sees improvement from an anti-inflammation diet.

Read the vitamins sticky at the top. The injured brain needs more than simply good nutrition from food. It is very difficult to get the amount of B-12, D-3 folic acid, magnesium and such from diet alone.

Please feel free to introduce yourself and tell us how we can help you with your struggles.

My best to you.
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billybob,


Welcome to NeuroTalk.

The only diet other than a basic good nutrition that includes avoiding caffeine, alcohol, MSG, HFCS and other artificial additives (sweeteners) that has appeared to have any value is an anti-inflammation diet. But, not everyone sees improvement from an anti-inflammation diet.

Read the vitamins sticky at the top. The injured brain needs more than simply good nutrition from food. It is very difficult to get the amount of B-12, D-3 folic acid, magnesium and such from diet alone.

Please feel free to introduce yourself and tell us how we can help you with your struggles.

My best to you.
Thanks for the response mark.

Im 20 years old and suffered between 3-5 concussions in a 6 month time period last year. Ever since, I have been struggling with symptoms related to pcs. Symptoms vary day to day, but overall I am not very functional. Brain fog, anxiety, low energy, occasional speech issues when overwhelmed, head sensitivity, etc.

Glad I found this website, its nice to see others that can actually understand what we deal with on a daily basis. One of the hardest things when I was at my worst and didnt know what was happening to me was that no one understood at all. Doctors told me it was only anxiety, which in turn made my parents start to not believe me. I have slowly gotten better as time has gone by, but am still left with symptoms that affect me daily.
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Dear Bill,

It depends on you as a person but above this area at the top of the page are articles that will help you. I personally have found that eating a low sugar, alcohol free, varied diet gives me a regular pattern of energy and prevents me plunging into depression. It has also helped me get rid of the weight I gained from being in a wheelchair and inactive after the injury for so long.
There are many studies into what types of vitamins, minerals, diet etc to use for brain injury.

Do a little research and get in touch with Mark on this site, he knows his stuff.
Take care.
Ok thanks, I will definitely take a look at the vitamin section. I also have noticed that if I eat very clean and healthily, the depression gets a lot better. If I eat any kind of processed food or things that could be labeled as bad for you, I get a terrible bout of depression in the coming days.
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I've been reading a lot about this as diet is one of the things we have control over as we hope to recover and gain back some of our former brain health.

From what I've gathered, a ketogenic diet (low carb/low sugar/high fat) is in fact the healthiest diet for the human brain. It is very difficult to maintain but a somewhat realistic regimen I've come across is

Less than 75 carbs/day
Less than 20 per meal

Essentially this puts the body in ketosis where it begins using fat as its energy source instead of carbohydrates. There is no downside to this, from what I've read. In fact it is healthier.

Cold pressed organic coconut oil has a lot of MCT's and helps maintain this equilibrium.

Sugar is not good for you and fat is, despite what Americans have been told for decades. Eliminate as much sugar from the diet as you can!! Of course everyone is different so take this advice for what it's worth. There is always the obstacle of personal variability in body type, metabolism, etc.

Take a look at the vitamin regimen as Mark referenced and if you have any further questions, perhaps regarding other supplements to take you can message me. I've had some recent success with a few.

And remember to hydrate! 6-8 glasses of water per day. I take this as being about 6 bottled waters. Keep chugging away.

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Actually, the ketogenic diet is usually recommended for those who struggle to metabolize glucose. Limiting other sources of calories causing the liver to release ketones puts the body into a famine mode. This is not healthy for most. If the brain is trying to get energy from glucose but the supply is limited, problems could arise. The ketone system is designed to provide energy to the brain and nerves to keep them alive as a last ditch effort to stay alive during fasting or famine.

Your brain needs meat protein for the amino acids it contains. The natural fats in meat and dairy are good for the brain. Coconut oil is a good natural fat along with olive oil. Most plant based fats pale in comparison.

Whole grain carbs are good, too. High density sugars should be limited. Small amounts of high density sugar are OK, especially if they are combined with other foods that slow the absorption. A teaspoon of sugar is only 18 calories. A small piece of chocolate (Hersey's individually wrapped) is only 80 calories. They should not be a problem in moderation. The dopamine response of that pleasant taste is good for the brain. I usually have such a piece of chocolate in the evening.

PCS is tough enough without the frustration of not enjoying the occasional taste pleasure.

If you like popcorn, coconut oil is great for popping corn. Then, a light spray of olive oil and a light sprinkling of salt is a healthy and tasty snack. Much better than microwave popcorn. If you need instructions, just ask. I've been popping popcorn in a pan on the stove since the 60's.
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I never said that meat was to be avoided. Protein from fatty meats is an essential part of the ketogenic diet I am trying. I guess it is different from the classic model.

There's plenty of pleasure in a nice juicy steak or some fried eggs and bacon without the need for excess sugar consumption. It's tough to be strict, I admit, but I really think it can go a long way for promoting brain health.

If you want to eat chocolate why not dark chocolate? I sometimes have a piece of this if I'm craving a dessert for the minor health benefits.

One thing we agree on is coconut oil and olive oil = good
Most other oils (soybean, canola) = bad especially hydrogenated

Dopamine release is an issue which could divert this thread away from the original post.
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I did not mean to imply that you said meat was bad. I was just saying that meat is good for the brain. But, the hypoglycemic condition needed to start the ketogenesis is not necessarily good for the brain.
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Dear Bill,

I have tried the ketogenic diet. I found that after 6 months my body could no longer sustain itself. I started to get nasty side effects from the depletion of certain vitamins and minerals and found myself reliant on taking them in pill form.

Therefore a balanced diet is a good one. I actually use "Slimming Worlds" philosophy. Check it out
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I am a 36 yr old female who has played football, as a hobby, for 13 yrs. In July 2012, during a game I was slammed to the floor by two angry guys who hit into me so hard that one of them broke their ribs.
This knocked me back onto hard ground leaving me unconscious. I awoke to chronic head and neck pain, sickness and the inability to see or balance.
The paramedics made me walk to the ambulance, instead of placing me on a spinal board, where I was taken to the ER. I was hospitalised with suspected brain hemorrhage for 1 week, then on complete bed rest for 1 month, in a wheelchair for 2 months.

I have been left with PCS, moderate constant head pain, little short term memory, no memory of the accident, balance and sight problems, depression and exhaustion.
The worst problem is collapsing regularly. This has finally been diagnosed as Hemiplegic Migraines , these cause my brain to regularly shut down when I am tired and I then feel the full effects of a stroke (without the bleed on the brain!!) of which the symptoms last 2-4 days.
I have had 6 CT's, 2 MRI's and am under 3 specialists.

I believe everyday is one more towards improvement. Mainly I believe in the power of acceptance not the weakness of complacency or resignation.
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