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Old 07-11-2015, 12:53 PM #1
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Hello,

I would need a list of anything that supports the healing, psychologically and physically.
Just how ot is named and one sentence what I can expect.
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Nobody can suggest what you can expect with any accuracy. Everyone's experience is different. Some are night and day different. You just need to be open to the tasks and exercises the various therapies involve.

OT means Occupational Therapy. It focuses on developing skills that allow one to return to normal life functions. PT Physical Therapy focuses on helping the body heal. OT helps you learn how to get the job (occupation) done. It can include learning work-arounds or new ways to do something.

The various therapies are specific to the dysfunction diagnoses. Not everyone needs all of them and some don't need many at all. The therapist should be able to determine what you need. In some cases, they will try a therapy to see if it leads to improvements. If there are no improvements, they may then consider the therapy was not needed. Unfortunately, they get paid either way.
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I ve chosen the wrong words. I want to.know.what they are for and not what I can expect.

I will discuss every therapy with a doctor. I just wanted a list that we can go through. Not every doctor might now all of them
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I would suggest the upper cervical care first ( check and treatment if needed)
info - www.upcspine.com

Can't build a good house if foundation is crooked..IMO

If neck pain - treatment for that.
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Your typo made me think you were asking specifically about ot. Looking back, I guess you meant to type 'it' not ot 'Just how ot is named'

OT, Occupational Therapy, explained above
PT, Physical Therapy, explained above
ST, Speech Therapy, works with verbal expressive skills, word finding, memory skills and more.

VT, Vestibular Therapy, works with balance issues
Behavioral/occupational psychology, helps one work with job tasks and job environments/relationships
NP, Neuro-Psychologist, looks at how the cognitive, memory, executive and motor functions are working.
NPA, NeuroPysch Assessment, testing system used by NP to measure the above functions.
Behavioral Optometry, looks at how the brain is focusing and converging the eyes and processing visual images

There are a few more therapy professions. Hopefully, others who have used them will post explanations.

A Physiatrist MD (Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation) is usually best at directing diagnostics and care to these various specialties. Family practice and neuro docs do not refer as often.
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I strongly believe this topic could make a very useful and practical "sticky."

I know that a list such as the one Mark just provided would have helped me immensely back when I first suffered my injury 9 long months ago. I think the admins should seriously consider this idea.

Mapping out the recovery from a brain injury is almost just as difficult as the recovery itself, especially when you have to do all the research on specialists with a compromised brain and by yourself.

There is no accepted treatment for PCS. The least we can do is provide newly diagnosed people with ideas for what to seek in their care from our experiences and trials. Each PCS sufferer will have different needs but a conprehensive list of the different types of specialists and their different descriptions would be beneficial for most new to the condition.
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Once others have added their input of therapists and protocols, we can combine them and add them to the sticky. An admin can add them to the first Vitamins sticky post. It has more than just vitamins.

Admins, Is it possible to create a closed Sticky where only Admins can add new information at our request ? I'm afraid a Therapists, Therapies and Protocols sticky would get buried in Q & A and other discussion and make it hard to find the jewels.

The Vitamins sticky has become buried in discussion.
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It is possible to lock a sticky thread so it doesn't get bogged down with a bunch of questions and discussion..

For this new thread idea here it would be much simpler if someone builds a concise /post/thread with as much info in the first post.. or the first few posts.
then we can sticky and decide to lock it or not.

It is usually easiest to compile the info & links on your computer and get it organised , then when ready make the thread and let us know so we can sticky & lock it.

this is one I complied years ago for the TOS forum -
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/post388-1.html
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The sticky idea is good. Mark started with a good overview but it does not go in detail to much.

I will name now the therapies I ve heard from:

- prolo therapy
- cranio sacral therapy
- accupuncture
- magnet field therapy
- vision therapy
- light therapy
- hydroxeur
- shiatsu
- meditation(yoga)
- various diets(i prefer paleo)

Those are the ones I hhave heard from. Maybe someone can add more.
My target of this thread was to get a good list that can be checked with your doctor.
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Chris,

You listed some therapies that have broad meanings.

I'll explain the ones I understand. Anyone, feel free to expand on my comments or correct me if I have miss-stated something.

It is very important to understand that asking a PCP or other first line doctor for some of these therapies can result in some derogatory comments in your medical record. The first question is about recognizing symptoms then targeting them to a therapy rather than looking at therapies and trying to find a symptom that may fits that therapy. The second question should be: Am I looking for a quick doctor fix or am I first doing everything I can do to heal. i.e. Doc says Rest, Patient responds, I can't rest so find a way to fix me.

Prolo Therapy is a specialized therapy used to treat soft tissue injuries. The therapist (MD, ND, DO, DC and even some others) locate the injured area and use a hypodermic needle to inject a dextrose solution into that area. This causes the body to respond with a healing focus. Some have used it for the soft tissue injured related to neck and upper cervical injuries.

Cranial Sacral Therapy is also know as Osteopathic Therapy or Osteopathic Manipulation. It is taught as part of an Osteopath's education (Doctor of Osteopathy, DO). The cranial part claims that the skull bones get out of position and need to be moved back into position. The CST therapist touches the skull to 'read' this misalignment. There has been extensive research into this and even though there are anecdotal claims of improvement, the processes of diagnosis and treatment have proven to be unreliable and not repeatable. Basically, ten different CST therapists will read the same skull to have ten different problems requiring ten different treatments. They find no overlap in diagnosis for the same skull. The Osteopathic Colleges are beginning to not teach the skull part of CST. This lead to the name change from CST to OT or OM. Many DO's do not practice or even believe in cranial manipulation. The spinal manipulations part of CST can be beneficial. Some DO's have true healing hands with spinal treatments.

Acupuncture is a Chinese/eastern medicine form of needle therapy targeting 'energy' zones or areas. There has been extensive research into using acupuncture for PCS and they found no value from acupuncture for PCS. There is a lot of anecdotal evidence that it helps with head aches and neck issues
Dry-Needling is a medically based form of needle therapy that targets the various nerve pathways without pursuing the 'energy' concepts of eastern medicine.
It would be great to hear comments about others experience with acupuncture and/or dry-needling.

Vision therapy can be as simple as wearing glasses with prisms or tints or it can involve doing vision exercises. Years ago, there was frequent discussion of vision therapy and a national organization of vision therapist that has a referral database. Maybe somebody remembers what it is. Some will put Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) in with vision therapy. Behavior optometrists are often the source of these therapies.

Light therapy is also a broad category. Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) can be in this category. There are various laser/LED systems that claim to trigger changes in cellular function and inflammation. There is an IR (InfraRed) LED therapy that has been shown to stimulate mitochondria function.

There are light therapies that attempt to trigger specific brain behaviors. These are often labeled as NeuroFeedback or NeuroTherapy. We have had people here on NT who have had adverse reactions from some of these unregulated and unapproved therapies.

Magnetic field therapy. This is a controversial therapy do to the mix of quack practitioners and those who approach it from a scientific basis.

There are many different diets that have been promoted.
Paleo
Mediteranean
anti-inflammatory
versions of Atkins
ketogenic
gluten free
sugar free

MCT concentrated diets (Medium Chain Triglycerides) to support ketogenesis
BCAA (Branched Chain Amino Acids) have been promoted (found in meat protein, especially pork)

The only diet that I have seen supported by any research is the anti-inflammatory diet. There are various versions of the anti-inflammatory diet.

I don't think diets belong in a sticky. There are too many varied aspects to consider.

Please, anybody feel free to add your posts. This is just a work in progress.
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