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Old 07-21-2015, 09:35 AM #11
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There is this cerebrolysin drug? what do you think of it? are there any other drugs you would recommend?
I really dont want to sound whiny but its very important to me since I work in a very challenging academic field.
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Old 07-21-2015, 10:13 AM #12
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Cerebrolysin has been shown to be helpful with some neurological conditions but has varied results. It is not available in the US. It is taken by intravenous injection although some have applied it nasally.

The best way to have good blood flow to the brain is by simple activity. Physical and cognitive activity will cause blood to flow.

What are you trying to achieve ?
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Cerebrolysin has been shown to be helpful with some neurological conditions but has varied results. It is not available in the US. It is taken by intravenous injection although some have applied it nasally.

The best way to have good blood flow to the brain is by simple activity. Physical and cognitive activity will cause blood to flow.

What are you trying to achieve ?
Full recovery. Its scaring me that I dont perform as good as I was 3 months ago.
I dont want the damge to be permanent.
They said this cerebrolysin drug enhances glucose uptake into the nerve cell.
I live in Germany and have access to all medication on the market.
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The damage is already there if your did damage your brain. Neuroregeneration is a very slow and haphazard process.

The brain is not like an injured muscle or bone. It does not grow replacement cells. Stem cells have been looked at to enhance neuroregeneration but the results have been poor.

Cerebrolysin appears to just be a treatment, not a cure. The benefits require continuous use.

If you want to maximize your future, get on a brain healthy diet and supplementation regimen. Then, avoid any head trauma risks.

This looks to be a promising concept. http://www.kurzweilai.net/light-ther...brain-injuries
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The damage is already there if your did damage your brain. Neuroregeneration is a very slow and haphazard process.

The brain is not like an injured muscle or bone. It does not grow replacement cells. Stem cells have been looked at to enhance neuroregeneration but the results have been poor.

Cerebrolysin appears to just be a treatment, not a cure. The benefits require continuous use.

If you want to maximize your future, get on a brain healthy diet and supplementation regimen. Then, avoid any head trauma risks.
I know its already there. I just thought about minimizing the damage by applying a neuroprotective drug. Like rescuing those axons and cells who would otherwise commit apoptosis.
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The studies I have read seem to find a 24 hour window for use of neuroprotective substances. One substance has great value in the first 24 hours but no value during the second 24 hours. It was discussed in this forum last week or so. My brain does not have enough memory function to remember what it was.
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Mark, regarding the light therapy link you referenced above, do you know if this kind of therapy is currently offered to anyone for mTBI by any kind of practitioner? Or is it still in the very early stages? From the cursory look I took it seems like it's mostly currently used for muscles/skeletal issues.
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April 2014 - did exertion test, passed, started exercising and doing more, but didn't feel much better.

May 2014 - Went on backpacking trip OK'd by doctor, trip itself went fine, but felt worse a few days after getting back, more difficulty concentrating, worse headaches.

June 2014 - Bumped head on ceiling walking slowly down stairs, no immediate symptoms, but caused worsening headahces, more difficulty concentrating and looking at screens. Have not felt as good as I did before this since this bump.

December 2014 - after feeling relatively better I went xc skiing and fell but didn't hit my head (something my psychologist who specializes in brain injuries told me he hoped would happen so I saw it was OK), felt worse

Feb 2015 - back in grad school, light teaching load and some research, nowhere close to operating at my full capacity. Still have constant headaches, difficulty reading/looking at screens, mild anxiety and depression, and just not feeling like my normal sharp self.

Trying, but struggling, to believe that I'll get back to my old self, or at least get close.
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The studies I have read seem to find a 24 hour window for use of neuroprotective substances. One substance has great value in the first 24 hours but no value during the second 24 hours. It was discussed in this forum last week or so. My brain does not have enough memory function to remember what it was.
Im going to ask a specialist on his opinion.
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Jon,

If you read the article, they state that they use LED system like used for muscle and joint issues. These systems obtain a FDA exemption or type of grandfathering that allows them to be used in ways that would otherwise require very expensive clinical study.

The wave length of the light appears to be the important part. But, they only penetrate 1 cm into the brain. Finding a way to increase penetration will be helpful.

The point of my posting the link was to show that healing is complex such as helping the mitochondria function better.
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@Mark
Ive been playing a lot of this game which is similar to chess the last days. I lose a lot against the guys who I used to defeat easily 3 months ago (before I started sparring).
Do you think that this cognitive setback is temporary or will I regain my original ability?
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