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Old 09-12-2015, 10:07 AM #1
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Default Nootropil (Piracetam)

Has anyone taken this for TBI? I tried it once after my Neurologist told me to try it and fell terrible afterwards. My brain was fogged out, I fell tired and couldnt fall asleep. Now I am afraid to take it again.
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It effects acetylcholine. Maybe you should try that instead. Piracetam is controversial as to its effectiveness.
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Has anyone taken this for TBI? I tried it once after my Neurologist told me to try it and fell terrible afterwards. My brain was fogged out, I fell tired and couldnt fall asleep. Now I am afraid to take it again.
I took this before I suffered a TBI and ended up having a terrible reaction to it. I began having panic attacks and horrible anxiety where I could barely function. In my opinion any of those nootropics will not offer any benefits that are substantial enough to offset the potential risk that accompanies taking them. They only offer marginal cognitive benefits, and messing with sensitive neurochemical mechanisms of the brain especially when dealing with TBI is certainly not worth it. Before even considering taking any kind drug to help with cognitive ability I would make sure my diet is clean and healthy, my sleep is optimized, I am taking nutrients to support healing(not drugs which make things worse), and am doing anything else that is in your control and can assist in getting better, rather than taking a drug that will at best offer marginal differences in cognitive ability/quality of life.
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I guess I should stay away from nootropics then. In case of supplements I am using: Fishoil, vitamin-D3, Lecithin, EGCG, Creatin and Curcumin. I would say I eat pretty healthy. My diet consist of fruits, berries, nuts, bread, meat, vegetables, milk and water. I will also usually have one unit of softdrink a day and some chocolate from time to time (Maybe I should cut that completly, I dont know). Its hard to tell if it has any affect on me. I dont feel I have made any progression the last 5-6monthes and now 10 months since my accident I still can not watch TV and have to limit my computer use.
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troublehead, Have you read the vitamins regimen in the sticky at the top ? You need to add B-12 and a B-50 Complex and C and E as needed anti-oxidants.

There is no reason to avoid chocolate, especially the darker variety.
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I'd say avoid softdrinks, they're just loaded with sugar and other unhealthy things. I'm enjoying some dark chocolate right now!
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26 year-old PhD student in evolutionary biology, slipped on ice in Feb 2014 while clipping my fingernails and walking to save time (dumbest reason for PCS ever?). Initially just had headaches and didn't feel quite right, but a minor head bump 5 days later started a downward spiral of anxiety, depression, insomnia and fatigue. Had trouble concentrating on reading/looking at screens

April 2014 - did exertion test, passed, started exercising and doing more, but didn't feel much better.

May 2014 - Went on backpacking trip OK'd by doctor, trip itself went fine, but felt worse a few days after getting back, more difficulty concentrating, worse headaches.

June 2014 - Bumped head on ceiling walking slowly down stairs, no immediate symptoms, but caused worsening headahces, more difficulty concentrating and looking at screens. Have not felt as good as I did before this since this bump.

December 2014 - after feeling relatively better I went xc skiing and fell but didn't hit my head (something my psychologist who specializes in brain injuries told me he hoped would happen so I saw it was OK), felt worse

Feb 2015 - back in grad school, light teaching load and some research, nowhere close to operating at my full capacity. Still have constant headaches, difficulty reading/looking at screens, mild anxiety and depression, and just not feeling like my normal sharp self.

Trying, but struggling, to believe that I'll get back to my old self, or at least get close.
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ALO Drinks or Vitaminwater might be good alternatives to soft drinks. They're delicious too!
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Has anyone taken this for TBI? I tried it once after my Neurologist told me to try it and fell terrible afterwards. My brain was fogged out, I fell tired and couldnt fall asleep. Now I am afraid to take it again.
I took it a couple times thinking it would help me too and I felt the same way you did. It is known to tax the adrenals, and when you're concussed your adrenals can be burnt out. I think it's best to avoid it until you've recovered completely, then see how it effects you then.
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