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Mystical 09-12-2015 08:56 PM

I hear you.

The things that helps along the way:

(1) prayers/blessings to heal from spiritual leaders and community

(2) attitude - manage your anxiety

(3) friends and family

(4) medications (from a psychiatrist)

(5) therapy (from a social worker/psychologist)

(6) vitamins, manuka honey, VSL#3 (probiotics), healthy diet

Stay strong! Hang in there!

Hockey 09-12-2015 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DannyT (Post 1170580)
This forum is full of negative energy. It really needs an overhaul. I believe when people visit they are filled with anxiety and hopelessness.

Like today, I just checked in and I saw people reporting how their deficits are permanent. I am barely holding on and need to believe I will get better. I can't see these types of stories.

I know plenty of people in person who have gotten better. Where are these people?! Tell your stories! We need this more than anything!!!

The people who get better leave - and that is the vast majority of them.

Look around, most TBI members have very few posts. The vast majority are "members" or "junior members." "Senior members" are rare. Designations above that, almost unheard of.

When I look at the big picture, I think it's actually quite encouraging. I do wish more people would check back in and report their success stories. When you recover, I hope you will do that. However, I do understand that, for those returned to health, NT has served its purpose and they have gotten back to their lives. Yeah!

Those of us with staying power are the exceptions because we've had exceptional injuries. Some have suffered multiple impacts and/or severe head trauma. Others got their TBI in MVAs, sustaining several other injuries (spinal cord damage, lost limbs, etc...) that have left them with chronic issues with mobility, pain and emotional trauma.

Hockey 09-12-2015 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark in Idaho (Post 1170584)
You may be spending too much time reading too many threads. What posts mentioned permanent deficits ? I have not seen any lately.

I have stated many times. Brain injuries are permanent. But, improvements are attainable for all but a very few. Rehab experience shows that the best recoveries happen when the patient accepts their current state of injury and symptoms and uses that as a foundation to move forward. When we constantly look at things as "I can't do that." versus, "I'll do that activity a different way," we get stuck in negativity. Moving forward despite our struggles allows us to rebuild our lives and reinvent our lives.

I have lived with horrible PCS limitations but can't understand why so many dive for a dark cave every time they encounter a struggle. I've had to leave stores, restaurants, church functions, etc. Over time, I have learned how to moderate these events so I can attend most of them.

Our lives changed when we got injured. But, we still can live a full life.

What have you tried to do to reinvent your life so you can move forward with the struggles you have ?

What Mark is saying is so, so true: I didn't really start to recover, until I stopped denying my injury. Once I stopped thinking I'd somehow just get back to 100%, I started working on the adaptations that have made my daily life so much better.

Yeah, I am still disabled and, barring a medical miracle, always will be. However, when I compare my initial prognosis to where I am now, I think, "WOW!"

If I can do it, anybody can.

ProAgonist 09-13-2015 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark in Idaho (Post 1170584)
You may be spending too much time reading too many threads. What posts mentioned permanent deficits ? I have not seen any lately.

I have stated many times. Brain injuries are permanent. But, improvements are attainable for all but a very few. Rehab experience shows that the best recoveries happen when the patient accepts their current state of injury and symptoms and uses that as a foundation to move forward. When we constantly look at things as "I can't do that." versus, "I'll do that activity a different way," we get stuck in negativity. Moving forward despite our struggles allows us to rebuild our lives and reinvent our lives.

I have lived with horrible PCS limitations but can't understand why so many dive for a dark cave every time they encounter a struggle. I've had to leave stores, restaurants, church functions, etc. Over time, I have learned how to moderate these events so I can attend most of them.

Our lives changed when we got injured. But, we still can live a full life.

What have you tried to do to reinvent your life so you can move forward with the struggles you have ?

Mark,

Why do you think all brain injuries are permanent? What about people that say they feel they have recovered fully from PCS? And why couldn't the brain heal fully if you take supplements, sleep well and exercise?

Mark in Idaho 09-13-2015 09:26 AM

The brain is not like an injured muscle. It does not regrow and replace cells like the rest of the body does. It can't because it needs to keep those cells because they have information stored in them. So, those cells need to heal. Some do but some don't. Slowly, some new cells grow but not to replace the injured cells. Unfortunately, the axons and myelin sheath between cells do not heal very well. They can function is a weakened state but not at the same level. This leaves the brain in a weakened state and more susceptible to dysfunction with the next concussion. This is why lowering stress is important.

But, permanent injury does not mean permanent symptoms or dysfunction. The brain is very good at adapting to injury and finding new pathways to make up for weakened pathways. It takes effort and many repetitions to help the brain establish these new pathways. It takes discipline to help the brain recover.

Hockey 09-13-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark in Idaho (Post 1170740)
The brain is not like an injured muscle. It does not regrow and replace cells like the rest of the body does. It can't because it needs to keep those cells because they have information stored in them. So, those cells need to heal. Some do but some don't. Slowly, some new cells grow but not to replace the injured cells. Unfortunately, the axons and myelin sheath between cells do not heal very well. They can function is a weakened state but not at the same level. This leaves the brain in a weakened state and more susceptible to dysfunction with the next concussion. This is why lowering stress is important.

But, permanent injury does not mean permanent symptoms or dysfunction. The brain is very good at adapting to injury and finding new pathways to make up for weakened pathways. It takes effort and many repetitions to help the brain establish these new pathways. It takes discipline to help the brain recover.

Neuro-plasticity is amazing! I found the documentary "The Brain the Changes Itself" so inspiring. www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL77A7359E49522204

When I was injured, I beat the odds, just to survive. Then, the neurologist told my husband I was a write-off. We just refused to accept that and went looking for therapists willing to help me.

I had to work my butt off, but I have come a long, long way. We all can!:grouphug:

Lightrail11 09-14-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hockey (Post 1170751)
When I was injured, I beat the odds, just to survive. Then, the neurologist told my husband I was a write-off. We just refused to accept that and went looking for therapists willing to help me.

I had wonderful support from the medical community, family and friends. To share a positive story, my NPA upon release from hospital said in part:

"Patient shows significant difficulties with visuospatial learning and recall, as well as mental flexibility and multitasking. He displays weaknesses in aspects of executive system functioning (retrieval of learned information, mental flexibility, abstract reasoning, problem solving, and verbal fluency).”

After three additional months of outpatient therapy, a second NPA said in part:

“On examination, the patient demonstrated intact cognition in all domains assessed including learning and memory, attention, processing speed, language skills and executive functions. He has shown an excellent recovery from his severe injury only five months ago. From a cognitive standpoint there are no concerns with respect to the patient returning to work full time or returning to driving”

Healing can and does happen.

ProAgonist 09-14-2015 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lightrail11 (Post 1170977)
I had wonderful support from the medical community, family and friends. To share a positive story, my NPA upon release from hospital said in part:

"Patient shows significant difficulties with visuospatial learning and recall, as well as mental flexibility and multitasking. He displays weaknesses in aspects of executive system functioning (retrieval of learned information, mental flexibility, abstract reasoning, problem solving, and verbal fluency).”

After three additional months of outpatient therapy, a second NPA said in part:

“On examination, the patient demonstrated intact cognition in all domains assessed including learning and memory, attention, processing speed, language skills and executive functions. He has shown an excellent recovery from his severe injury only five months ago. From a cognitive standpoint there are no concerns with respect to the patient returning to work full time or returning to driving”

Healing can and does happen.

This is amazing, great to hear!

Can you please share with us the things you did in order to recover so well from your injury? Did it just happen spontaneously, or you got a certain treatment that helped you recover more efficiently?

Mark in Idaho 09-14-2015 02:17 PM

ProAgonist,

I bet that if you were assessed with an NPA, you would show to be as capable as Lightrail. The therapies he underwent were to get him from a seriously dysfunctional state to a highly functional state. You were never in a seriously dysfunctional state. You were mildly effected by your concussion. Your OCD, anxiety and such causes you to overstate these minor struggles.

Lightrail is not back to 100% of what he was prior to his injury. But, that does not matter. He is able to return to a full and functional life. The little setbacks he may have from time to time don't reduce his ability to live his life because he does not let them.

concussionkid123 09-14-2015 05:40 PM

I've have overcome what felt like insurmountable PCS. You, too, will recover. You are not cognitively limited forever. The brain is complex and far from being comprehensively understood; making assumptions about its regenerative capabilities are, at this time, sorely ungrounded and subjective. All this to say, keep a positive mindset. Regression to PCS does happen occasionally, but one day, you will awaken to a clear mind. Take care. Don't lose hope.


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