Hello everybody,

I have gotten a little better, and I have started to sleep very heavy during the night. This is good because I feel more refreshed when I wake up.

But I have this fear, that I will hit my head at the wall or fx get my girlfriends elbow in my head during sleep. To manage this I have put a pillow between me and the wall and me and my girlfriend.

I have always thought that if I got a hit to the head during sleep, it would wake me up. In spite of this I have had a lot of mornings where I felt bad and I then have been worried that something had happened during the night, but this usually subsides in a couple of hours.

But I have always thought that if I hit my head on the night I would wake up from it. this has not prevented me many mornings waking and if I think I was bad so I was afraid to have turned his head. This fear usually however to evaporate after a few hours.

Last night I woke up at 03:00, and discovered that my son was lying on my arm with his head only 10 cm from my head. I was immediately worried that while asleep he had crawled over to me and falled down on my head. But I did not feel more bad than could be expected, and fell asleep again.

This morning I have had much more nausea, fatigue, brain fog, concentration problems and unsteadiness than usual, and I fear something has happened.

My question is, is it possible to get a concussion or sub concussive impact while asleep without waking from it?

And my second question is, if my son in his sleep has rolled his head into mine, is it then enough to cause a concussion or sub concussive impact?

Thanks for reading.

I just realise I made som typing errors above. Sorry about that, but I use google translate and then try to customise the result.

By the way, if my son gave me a concussion, wouldnt I have a bulge or pain the area he hit? And wouldnt I wake up immediately, and not after some minutes?

When I woke up tonight I went to the toilet, and I felt dizzy, but I think that is normal to me when I wake up.

But something is definitely wrong - I havent felt this bad for quite a while.

Any comments would be appreciated.

I dont think it is possible to be able to get a concussion without being awoken from the impact. I think the most likely causation for the flare in your symptoms is likely anxiety from your belief that this event did occur. I would try to relax and think through the possibility of such an event causing a concussion and even more the possibility that it even happened in the first place. I know how hard it can be to deal with the obsessive thoughts that can arise from these situations. It can be impossible to not think about it, but I think the best thing you can do now is relax and try to be as logical as possible with the situation.

I also do not think it is even possible to be able to get a concussion from such a small force that would be transmitted accidentally from a small child.

I hope you feel better soon.

Two issues to resolve here.

First, an individual sub-concussive impact should not be a worry. It takes hundreds of sub-concussive impacts to cause damage, primarily because the minor trauma, I'll call it a micro-trauma, is repeated without giving the brain a chance to recover. Maybe this illustration will help.

Let's say a concussion is a 10. A subconcussive impact (SCI) is a 1.

First SCI is a 1. It resolves to a 0.1 then there is a 2nd 1 SCI so the combined level is 1.1 It resolves to a 0.11.

Now a 3rd SCI of 1 combines to 1.11. It resolves to a 0.12

Now a 4th SCI of 1 combines to a 1.12. It resolves to a 0.21

Now a 5th SCI of 1 combines to a 1.21. It resolves to a 0.22

Do you see how many subconcussive impacts would need to be linked together to cause an injury ?

Now, regarding getting a concussive impact in your sleep. I doubt there is any sleep movements other than falling out of bed onto a concrete floor that could cause a concussion. An elbow would have to be extremely powerful to cause a concussion, not just a movement in sleep. A child does not have the mass to cause a concussion.

Do you feel lousy? Sure you do. It can be anxiety. It can be a disturbed sleep because your son climbed into bed and did not wake you but disrupted your sleep cycles.

This roller coaster of PCS is a common part of PCS. It does not need a traumatic event to cause the relapse of PCS symptoms. A slight sleep disturbance can totally mess up my day. Nothing I do can fix it until I can get a good night's sleep. Tomorrow is always another day. I have to look forward to them because, based on experience, my symptoms of today rarely carry over to tomorrow unless I do something stupid today or mess up my sleep again.

So, relax and get through today and look forward to tomorrow.

Possibly you slept with your neck in a bad position, tilted or angled and that is why you feel worse.

Norwegian,

I have the same thoughts....I also put a pillow between the wall and me and since a couple of month I prefer to sleep alone. My marriage didn't make it through PCS �� so the only person sleeping in my bed from time to time is my seven year old son. I always tell him to be very careful and not to lay too close. Then when I wake up and feel bad I wonder if maybe I hurt my head during sleep.

I think anxiety makes most of my symptoms.

For example yesterday: The weather in Germany turned really bad with very strong winds. I left work, stepped outside the building and the wind blew up the hood if my jacket. It scared me right away, I tried telling myself that it did not hurt my head, but my system flared up real bad.