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Old 10-12-2015, 02:31 PM #1
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Default Mental Bootcamp

I have heard of Carrick, Hyperbaric, and all that I guess we can add one more to the list of places offering supposed hope for this wretched injury. Cognitive Fx, only place that uses an FMRI for treatment.

Cognitive fx.

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It looks a lot like the stuff at carrick. I believe that it helps a lot of people but not all.

I used the dynavision (board with push buttons that light up) at the carrick-trained physician's clinic. And I used it at a hospital. Didn't notice anything.

Playing catch with two tennis balls was part of my therapy, among some eye exercises.

I believe the end of the video said it costs 6-9 grand approximately.
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Carrick s a chiro and these are scientists supposedly at the forefront of concussion research. Also the fmri is intriguing. Supposedly Norman Doidge is recommending it as the place to go to for concussion rehab. It is expensive but I almost feel like money has lost all is value since concussion. I am willing to burn out my investments to try to get better. If I don't get better I will be living in my moms house for the rest of my life anyway.
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Cog FX is a team of a NeuroPsychologist and a Cognitive Neuroscientist with expertise in neuro-imaging. I am surprised they do not do a before and after NeuroPsychological Assessment in their research. Their standard for improvement/recovery is patient reporting and fMRI imaging showing a return to baseline based on a baseline established by 'healthy' population participants.

It will be very interesting to see some validating structured clinical trials.

$6900 to $9500 for a week of treatment seems quite high for a target of 80% recovery.

There is a lot that makes sense such as being able to target specific brain functions that need rehabilitation. I struggle to see how less than a weeks therapy can provide such drastic improvements. The brain just does not respond that quickly in most situations.

But, the fact that insurance does not cover any of the program means only the wealthy can afford it.

Dr Amen's clinics use SPECT imaging to find the dysfunctional parts of the brain and then targets treatment to those issues. Again, a cash based treatment program.
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What do people think? Dr. Phong is saying that she has improved every single persons symptoms that has gone through her program. That's is 300 people so far. So anyone planning on trying this.
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My concern is her lack of transparency about the therapy. She claims good results but does not say what the therapies are. She says patients claim an 80 to 100% recovery. That is quite a range. She does not say if those patients come to her at week one after a concussion or at a later time.

There are an awful lot of unknowns for such an expensive week.
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https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCEKNDpmHUduo0IbQoTA5Fbg

Their YouTube channel has quite a few testimonials.

Like most people on here, I'd try it if I had the money and it were closer. It's in Utah I believe. I already have spent a lot of money trying to heal me up and have found the most success with a 300$ light machine where the therapy is called syntonic phototherapy.

Are you currently thinking of giving it a shot?

You could send any questions you have to thee clinic.
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Hi QtipsQ,

I just scheduled an initial consultation with Dr. Phong at Cognitive FX for November 17th. Have you thought about setting something up OR already had this consultation?

If so, curious how it went. Also, wondering where you received the statistic that all 300 of her patients reported improvement. Is that somewhere online?

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Default Initial consultation

I set up an initial consult too. See what she has to say, I am still very skeptical but that is what she says in her interview. Everyone sees an improvement, they don't guarantee anything and also the clinic has been created by dr. phong and her associates after a decade of supposed research. I would like to know what improvements is she seeing. If she can restore me anywhere close my previous self that would be amazing. For me that means that she makes me headache free.
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Yup, that makes sense. I did the same thing. This seems interesting. Saw the video where she claims everyone of the 300 folks was significantly improved. That's interesting.

Good luck to us!

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I set up an initial consult too. See what she has to say, I am still very skeptical but that is what she says in her interview. Everyone sees an improvement, they don't guarantee anything and also the clinic has been created by dr. phong and her associates after a decade of supposed research. I would like to know what improvements is she seeing. If she can restore me anywhere close my previous self that would be amazing. For me that means that she makes me headache free.
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