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Old 08-19-2016, 11:12 AM #11
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It would be worthwhile to get some blood work. Thyroid, B-12, D-3, Folate, and the rest of a full panel. Some get the rest of the hormones checked but that would require somebody who understands hormones to read the results.

I'm not sure a medical massage would be good unless it was directed by a Physical Therapist who is knowledgeable and skilled at working with upper neck issues. Upper neck injuries should be treated with gentle therapy. No range of motion and harsh stuff. Just gentle traction and mobilization. A massage therapist may get too aggressive.

How often do you have the headaches and do they respond to pain meds like ibuprofen or acetaminophen (Tylenol) ?
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Thanks, Mark! That's good information about the massage. My chiropractor has been very good and I've improved quite a bit under his care. I think he's been on target about what he's been doing with me. I'll make sure he is specific about what he is recommending in the way of massage. He has done quite a bit of this - working with massage.

I'm not sure I understand what you are talking about as to the blood work and how that relates to the head injury...
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That is terrible-I'm so sorry you have had to go through all that, Pedalspinner. What is it that happened to you 29 months age?
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If your thyroid is not working properly, that can cause fatigue. If your folate and B-12 are low, that delays recovery. The injured brain requires more nutrition than a healthy brain.

What are all the treatments/therapies your chiro is doing ?

I am a true believer in chiro but know many chiros think they have all the answers. Of the 18 chiros I've seen over 35 years, they all claimed they could help me but only 5 or 6 truly did. Many are too aggressive.
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I had a chiropractor that I loved and he was always very helpful. He was a really great guy and an asset to the community, volunteering his services to help the high school teams (his kids were all on teams and he was there anyway). He died suddenly (apparently he had a seizure disorder) and I just hoped I never needed another chiro, because I thought no one could follow Don. But after the accident I thought I'd try the guy who took over Don's practice and I really like him. He does straightforward mainstream chiropractic, sometimes with some other therapies thrown in there, and it seems to be working. His office is also less than a mile from my house, which makes it pretty easy to get there.

I've been working hard at sleeping more and that seems like a good thing. I was telling someone I was trying to get seven hours and she said, "you have a head injury-you should be trying for eight. There is just no reason not to!" Seems to be a good idea...
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There is no reason to try to sleep more than 7 hours if you go to sleep easily and wake up easily. If you wake up groggy or foggy, your quality of sleep may be questionable.

If your chiro is doing the classic 'twist the head and pop the neck' adjustment, it may be too aggressive. At least, ice your neck after each treatment.

My favorite chiro retired. He was a true healer and directed me to a physiatrist for issues he could not treat. The physiatrist referred me to a very uniquely skilled physical therapist who is fabulous. I found one good chiro since but he moved away. My favorite physical therapist no longer takes my insurance so I am stuck without the care I need.
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Oh that's a good idea - icing after adjustments. I usually do it when my head hurts, which may be too late.

Stress seems to be the biggest and fastest trigger right now. This afternoon I was talking to my friend Greg about my dad's condo, which I am really not ready to figure out what to do with yet. I finally moved back into my own condo, but his still has tons of stuff in it that I need to figure out what to do with. So, Greg has an uncle who is a realtor and lives two hours away, and he was talking to his uncle about this condo and his uncle wants to come and look at it - like this week. I am nowhere near ready to show it to anybody or have any pressure about it.

I have just begun a new job and I am trying very hard to get the work done, not make mistakes, get it done right and on time. I really can't afford to mess this up and lose it. Since I lost my primary job I really need to get this one right because I really need the money. The condo is low priority right now. I told Greg I couldn't deal with it and my head was starting to hurt. He kept on and in a few minutes my head felt like it was going to explode. A few minutes later it started to throb and I insisted that Greg stop talking about this.

Greg has been a life-save this summer as I've worked on combining my dad's and my stuff into one condo, painting my own condo and getting things together and moved back in, even though there is still tons to do. Greg was really helpful in the beginning after the accident, reminding me to not bend over, not lift anything heavy, not climb ladders, and so on - that the physical stuff was not good for my head and should be avoided. But somehow he doesn't get this one - that when he pressures me about something I get a horrific headache and it's not good for me. I'm not sure why the stress of being pressured like that brings on killer headaches, and so I am having trouble explaining this to him. Any ideas to understand this better so that I can explain it?
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If you can get Greg to read somethings about Concussions, it may help. At the bottom of the first post in the Vitamins sticky at the top are three links. The TBI Survival Guide is great but long. The YouTube video takes about an hour. The Brainline link is the shortest read and may be enough to get him on the right page.

Yes, stress, especially from somebody incessantly talking and pressuring you will trigger a bad headache and mental confusion and for some of us, an outburst of anger or yelling.

You need to have a strong phrase or something that tells Greg, "I am struggling and this needs to stop." so you can say it, even if you are in public.

From my experience, I would not let a realtor from 2 hours away list a property. I'd want somebody with experience with the same condo project who really knows the market.

But, you need time to deal with your father's stuff. That is too much stress to do under pressure. Stay focused on your new job and go slow with your father's place. I know how tough it is to clear out parents' home. My siblings and I have had to do it last year. Lots of stress as memories get replayed. Give yourself time to finish saying good bye.

My best to you as you continue to move forward.
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Thanks Mark! I really appreciate your sympathy, support and information. I wasn't able to find the links you wrote about, although I did see some interesting things as I was looking about for them. I also tried looking for the words, like "Brainline" but got tons of hits, none of which seemed to be the one you were referring to.

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Here is the important part of the Vitamins post I mentioned.

There are three valuable resources for you to check out.

The TBI Survival Guide at Traumatic Brain Injury.
Print it out (84 pages)

The YouTube "You Look Great" 6 part series
[1 of 6] "You Look Great!" : Inside a TBI - YouTube

The brain line 'TBI Lost and Found'
Lost & Found: What Brain Injury Survivors Want You to Know

Share these with your family and/or friends. And, try to find a TBI support group to attend with your family. They can be a great source of support and understanding.

Home made Ice pack

My recipe for a flexible/crushable ice pack is simple. One part rubbing alcohol with three parts water in a zip lock baggies. Freeze them, three is good, so you can alternate them and always have a frozen one. Ice frequently for 15 minutes on and 30 minutes off and repeat. If you get any stiffness of head ache, get the ice pack out. The upper neck easily gets inflamed cause symptoms. This should make a difference.

Here is a link to the whole post. http://www.neurotalk.org/1106982-post101.html
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