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When I was walking my dog the other day, I took a step abruptly off a curb and felt a really unpleasant lurching in my head. My knee may have veen locked at an awkward angle. I felt really weird. I tried to tell myself it was nothing, but I have been feeling truly miserable since then. I feel like I've gone 100% backwards and I'm really really scared that I've reinjured myself

I attributed it to pillow in another thread, but now I've realized this.

Could you get a concussion this way? I recall reading marks post about something similar and im honestly kind of panicking

I apologize for multiple posts in a short time but I'm really scared. I feel like I'm losing it
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When I was walking my dog the other day, I took a step abruptly off a curb and felt a really unpleasant lurching in my head. My knee may have veen locked at an awkward angle. I felt really weird. I tried to tell myself it was nothing, but I have been feeling truly miserable since then. I feel like I've gone 100% backwards and I'm really really scared that I've reinjured myself

I attributed it to pillow in another thread, but now I've realized this.

Could you get a concussion this way? I recall reading marks post about something similar and im honestly kind of panicking

I apologize for multiple posts in a short time but I'm really scared. I feel like I'm losing it
Nick, it's extremely unlikely you received another concussion from just stepping off a curb or from your pillow.

You had several concussions in a short period of time so your equilibrium is off and your brain hasn't fully recovered. Your recovery is going to take some time. You need quiet rest. Sounds like you are likely making your symptoms worse with anxiety. Quiet rest, good nutrition, read the sticky thread above regarding supplements. You are likely to recover but it will take time. Breathe. Relax.
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Today: Neuropsychological examination five months post-accident indicated a return to normal cognitive functioning, and I returned to work approximately 6 months after the accident. I am grateful to be alive and am looking forward to enjoying the rest of my life.
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Nick, it's extremely unlikely you received another concussion from just stepping off a curb or from your pillow.

You had several concussions in a short period of time so your equilibrium is off and your brain hasn't fully recovered. Your recovery is going to take some time. You need quiet rest. Sounds like you are likely making your symptoms worse with anxiety. Quiet rest, good nutrition, read the sticky thread above regarding supplements. You are likely to recover but it will take time. Breathe. Relax.
Ordinarily Id think so too, but I recall reading a post discussing a remarkably similar scenario that caused a concussion. I'm doing my best to recall calm and stay the course but I can't shake the thought

Thank you very much for responding though
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When I did this, I had a perfect storm of conditions that made the drop much worse. I thought it was a ramp so I did not expect the drop. It was a tall curb from a sloped sidewalk. I was carrying a large garbage bag so my back was arched and my head was back so there was no normal S curve in the spine to absorb any of the impact. I jarred my pelvis, back and neck and messed up my shoulder. It required physical therapy for my pelvis, back and shoulder. I also knew I had rung my bell with this event.

Since then, I did an unexpected step off a front porch but without my back arched and noticed the jolt but did not suffer any symptoms at all.
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When I did this, I had a perfect storm of conditions that made the drop much worse. I thought it was a ramp so I did not expect the drop. It was a tall curb from a sloped sidewalk. I was carrying a large garbage bag so my back was arched and my head was back so there was no normal S curve in the spine to absorb any of the impact. I jarred my pelvis, back and neck and messed up my shoulder. It required physical therapy for my pelvis, back and shoulder. I also knew I had rung my bell with this event.

Since then, I did an unexpected step off a front porch but without my back arched and noticed the jolt but did not suffer any symptoms at all.
Well, thank you very much for your responses. I began feeling much better and more reassured about that incident since creating this thread.

It seems I just can't catch a break though- Yesterday I hit my head against a car headrest. right in the spot where I hit my head when I fainted in November. I immediately felt a jolt and felt okay the rest of the day and I tried to forget it. Yet today I seem to spiraling further and further backwards. **

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A car headrest is designed to have enough give to prevent a concussion or injury except in the most extreme circumstances. So, unless you hit the headrest with enough force to break it, you did not injury yourself.

Your biggest need is help with your anxiety. Anxiety can mimic all the symptoms of a concussion.

Try to remember that just walking, especially up or down steps, subjects the head to far more force than any of these bumps and your brain tolerates these foot plant impacts hundreds of times a day.

It appears you have become so anxious about touching your head against anything that head bumps that you did without even thinking twice are now pushing you over the edge.

Hits happen. The brain tolerates then. Give yourself a break.
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A car headrest is designed to have enough give to prevent a concussion or injury except in the most extreme circumstances. So, unless you hit the headrest with enough force to break it, you did not injury yourself.

Your biggest need is help with your anxiety. Anxiety can mimic all the symptoms of a concussion.

Try to remember that just walking, especially up or down steps, subjects the head to far more force than any of these bumps and your brain tolerates these foot plant impacts hundreds of times a day.

It appears you have become so anxious about touching your head against anything that head bumps that you did without even thinking twice are now pushing you over the edge.

Hits happen. The brain tolerates then. Give yourself a break.

Thank you for a swift response, it's made me feel a little better

Im just really scared. I think I have to stop coming here so much- while it has provided a lot of help, my anxiety has skyrocketed ever since I've ive started reading some of the stories reporting years without recovery. All the reading has overstimulated me numerous times. I guess obsessing over things like this in my nature. Always had health anxiety even before PCS. I'll learn to work on worrying less over these stories and these hits to my head that I'm so afraid of.

Thankfully I'm starting a new rehab program at the well reputed Chiropro clinic in acton mass. I went there today, and the doctor I met and the testing I underwent was hands down the most thorough so far in my recovery. Looking forward to beginning the process. Hopefully it helps

You're good man. Thank you again
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Guard your wallet. Chiro neuro clinics can get very expensive. I doubt they can offer any help with your health anxiety unless there are some nutritional needs you have not been meeting. I believe anxiety is your most pressing issue.
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Guard your wallet. Chiro neuro clinics can get very expensive. I doubt they can offer any help with your health anxiety unless there are some nutritional needs you have not been meeting. I believe anxiety is your most pressing issue.
Yeah the cost seems fairly high. I'm very, very, very fortunate that my parents are willing to assist so much with this. I'm grateful beyond belief.

But yeah I'm Willing to give it a shot- for what it's worth Chiropro supposedly greatly helped the daughter of a woman my mother knows who suffered PCS for 3.5 years. Granted, it's just a small anecdote, but I've read a few other anecdotes regarding this clinic to believe it's worth a go. If it helps I'll let this form know

As for anxiety, I'm going to begin a medication soon from my psychiatrist. Hopefully that proves useful. I took an Ativan to relax before my cervical neck MRI the other day and i actually felt pretty decent. Maybe a longterm SSRI will be beneficial.
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Be careful with benzos like Ativan. Occasional use like for an MRI is OK but don't let anybody suggest routine use of benzos.

Before you start an SSRI from your psychiatrist, ask the chiro neuro if they suggest any supplements. I take 5-HTP and L-Theanine as a replacement for an SSRI that I had taken for 14 years. The side-effects of an SSRI can be a big problem so don't take that decision lightly.

Keep in mind that chiro neurology only helps those who fit a specific injury profile. They don't tell you about the many patients who are not helped but spend up to $10,000 for treatment.

What symptoms are you still experiencing that you are seeking treatment for ?
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