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Old 02-18-2018, 09:18 PM #41
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Hi again. I like to quote, but i can make an exception.

I have stayed away from alcohol for 8 months. Had like one beer in 7 months i think. Now i think i can drink, even though i know it's not good for me. But i rarely drink. I need some beer after a while. Like 5% beer. I do not drink stronger alcohol then that, but i like beer sometimes. My brain is (probably) healed now apart from some (small) side effects from time to time. Can feel a little dizzy if i slept bad sometimes, etc. But mostly feel ok.
I never get drunk, but i can get buzzed now after 7 months and it feels quite nice.
I have been to the gym a few times last month, and that worked. Rowing machine. But i gotta have some beer also in life. Felt it was time.

2. Yes, i agree on that. Need to fix my computer setup, and should have done it 6 months ago. But i can do some neck massage and yoga maybe also.

Hemp cbd oil is quite cheap. Depends..
About lions mane, you can grow it yourself at home also. I'm going to start with that. Buy a ready to go kit and grow at home. Lions mane might not be proven for concussion syndrome, but proven in NGF and neurogenesis. I dig it.

About stress levels. I am not always stressed, but quite allot. But i have tried going to the gym some. Tried yoga and meditation, and that can help. And have now bought some beer, and that can be a nice way to take the edge off from time to time. I rarely drink.

But i guess it became stressful after the accident and i worried quite much, but no need. I don't know. My situation have been stressful at times, but i can take walks and other stuff. Not always tense, but i can work on it, sure. A stress free life would be better.

But now after 7 months i can drink in my opinion. Might still not be good, but most of it is healed by now. Just need to wait out these twitches i have got. But if it's not epilepsy, then i am cool with that. It started after the blow to the head though. I did not have them before really.
Take care. It's late here and i gotta sleep. Peace
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Hemp oil usually has low concentrations of CBD and the cheap stuff often has herbicides in it, especially the CBD Hemp oil sourced from China. There is no standard for testing of CBD oil. Buyer beware. I can buy it on the shelf at a local health food and supplement store but $30 for hemp oil with a little bit of CBD in it is just too much.

Lion's Mane: Neurogenesis is a very slow process, months or so. The neuropathy value may be quicker but it has only been studied in rats. They react faster than humans. Some neuro studies of other substances with rats have shown rats have improvements that do not show when human trials are done.

But, if you struggle with stress and anxiety, you may be highly responsive to the placebo effect.
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Last. Neurogenesis is a slow process, yes. But i feel some improvement after taking it for almost a month actually. It helps against anxiety and depression also. And NGF: Nerve growth factor - Wikipedia

And all of the scientific evidence was in the youtube video i linked before, and i have also read about the rats in neurogenesis. (Pubmed.) I'm really happy i stumbled across it a while back. The mushroom is unique in NGF and neurogenesis. I will try it out for 6 months or more and see what happens.
I'm loving it. Anyways, we can write on here another time. Peace out. Good night
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I have been following this post closely as that is my constant question. Rest or push myself? I've been to doctors, neurologists, neuropsychologists, cognitive therapits, physical therapists, ordered several books, listened to several podcasts and documentries, and what I've determined is the brain is still very much new territory, the "final frontier" in medicine if you will...and anyone that pretends to have all the answers is naively misinformed. The most frustrating theory to me is the theory that says if you still have symptoms after a couple months- it's anxiety or depression. This has not been proven. This is to sell anti-anxiety and anti-depression medication...pharmaceuticals benefit from this theory. IF those drugs help you, great! But they are not a quick "fix" and many people cannot handle the side effects. From my experience and research, I think it's a balancing act. Stay as active as you can without activating symptoms. The "suck it up" "It's all in your head" theory can prolong recovery.
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LettingMyLightShine,

Welcome to NeuroTalk.

Yes, there is still a lot to learn about the brain but there is some sound science that is valuable.

I don't think there is a drug pushing concept in most of the concussion treatment community. There is plenty of evidence that benzos are counter to recovery. The only two drugs that are routinely prescribed are amytriptyline and nortriptyline. Both are recommended in much lower than normal doses when treating PCS headaches and insomnia. Some unknowing doctors will think that more is better.

Actually, there have been studies that show anxiety has a big impact of concussion recovery. They can actually predict most outcomes based on pre-concussion anxiety or depression levels. Those who have no history of anxiety or depression statistically recovery faster.

There are a lot of things that can be done to avoid drugs but improve the brain's tolerance for stress. Many have great results with a brain health vitamin and supplement regimen. B-12, the rest of the Bs including folic acid, D-3, Omega 3, Cal-mag, Curcumin and avoiding caffeine, alcohol, msg, sugars and the inflammatory foods can all help.

Please feel free to start your own thread so you can tell us about your experiences and your successes and struggles.
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Thank you Mark. I do need to start a thread an introduce myself and my story. I only recently have admitted my problems and I am still in a bit of denial as I thought I wouldn’t have lasting impact. I am new to this and still learning but am very bitter by a neurologist that said that Cymbalta was the quick fix and that all symptoms were due to anxiety (even fine motor movements, memory loss, nausea, dizziness, brain fog, overstimulation, flooding....all symptoms). He actually yelled and said to take the Cymbalta every day no matter how it made me feel. If that’s not pushing drugs by someone that supposedly specializes in brain injury, I don’t know what is. All other doctors I’ve seen since 100% disagree with him!! He has that biased about all brain injury symptoms being linked to anxietybecause of those studies, but I have NO history of anxiety what so ever!!!!!! And I do not believe that my continued symptoms are due to anxiety.

And yes, my chiropractor put me on the B-complex, Fosh Oil, Magnesium, Vitamin D, and Tumeric. Also- light exercise as tolerated.

Sorry to hi-jack the post. I’ll start my own soon and tell my story. I just had to get that frustration off my chest. Thank you so much.
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LMLS,

Most here on NeuroTalk know that very few neurologists know much about concussions at all.

I doubt he has read much about concussions and anxiety. If he followed concussion issues, he would never make such a statement. Many respond to how a patient presents their symptoms. If the neuro can't verify the symptoms (they are hard to verify objectively), they tend to discount them. They prescribe anti-depressants and anxiolytics to try to calm the patient.

The study about anxiety and concussions is rather obscure.

When you start your own thread, it would be helpful to describe your injury, your past and current symptoms, any diagnoses or treatments from doctors or chiros and what supplements and doses you are taking. Many get a generic recommendation or get sold a 'proprietary supplement' that is distributed by the alternative medicine doctor. For example, most turmeric is a waste of money. In unconcentrated form, you would have to eat it by the spoonful.
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I have been following this post closely as that is my constant question. Rest or push myself? I've been to doctors, neurologists, neuropsychologists, cognitive therapits, physical therapists, ordered several books, listened to several podcasts and documentries, and what I've determined is the brain is still very much new territory, the "final frontier" in medicine if you will...and anyone that pretends to have all the answers is naively misinformed. The most frustrating theory to me is the theory that says if you still have symptoms after a couple months- it's anxiety or depression. This has not been proven. This is to sell anti-anxiety and anti-depression medication...pharmaceuticals benefit from this theory. IF those drugs help you, great! But they are not a quick "fix" and many people cannot handle the side effects. From my experience and research, I think it's a balancing act. Stay as active as you can without activating symptoms. The "suck it up" "It's all in your head" theory can prolong recovery.
Hi.
Yes, same here. I also think it's an balancing act. My first response was to push through and do stuff, but it's important to take it easy also.
It's a big change after a hard hit to the head for sure. Mentally, psychically, and overall. But i hope you also find all of your answers in the search for recovery, etc. And the brain is very complex, and we don't understand it well enough yet, but it's good we have some answers as humans on it. (Pharmaceuticals are not the best medications, but lions mane seems nice and hemp cbd oil. They are from nature.) Best of luck on your recovery.
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Hi. Curious. Just wondering if Benzodiazepine withdrawal would affect my post concussion recovery badly? If anyone knows.

Benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome - Wikipedia

I'm thinking about when i'm going to start quit with a tapering plan and reduce until i quit. Been 8 months since i hit my head now, and still not fully recovered. Dizzy from time to time.

I'm guessing if i do it the right way and quit slowly the mind and body will get used to it, and it might not be that bad if i sleep good. Because sleep is the most important part of healing, and withdrawal could effect that, and the brain goes through allot then if one don't get enough sleep. Even though i have read about some quitting and had quite a pain/struggle with it, but felt so much better in the end.
If i would sleep good without it, that would be awesome.
I have had sleeping "medication" for many many years now, and i want to quit and become free of it. I have put it all *on hold* until my symptoms are gone, and that *might also be smart*, though. If i did not hit my head i would had started quitting at the beginning this year. Might take a year or more until the withdrawal symptoms are gone i'm guessing.

That is my goal anyways! And when i quit, if it goes well, i will go to the gym allot and try to exercise more, like every day when i'm free later on. Quit smoking two years ago, and that felt good! This was my next goal, but of course i had to hit the back of my head hard on concrete. Hmm. **** happens.
If i get free of this poison i have taken for this long, i would feel allot better at the end of that tunnel. (Also antidepressants medicine which i want to be without and have taken it for 7 years now which should be taken before sleep also, but i will quit with that after the benzo.) I want to drink water, eat good and workout without any poison in my body later on.

My brain and body would thank me when i'm free from withdrawal! Just not sure if it's a good time to "soon" after the accident, or if i should wait a while. I still have symptoms with dizziness sometimes, etc.

What do you think would be the best? If anyone knows that is. Just curious on how it could affect the recovery, or if it's worth it in a few months or perhaps wait until january next year, then i should be feeling better, so it could be smart to wait a while also.. Well, now i need to sleep soon, it's in the middle of the night. Will check in another time. Thanks.

edit: I will think about this on my own, and do some research about it. Guessing it could be a bad move, and it could be better if i wait for a while until my symptom are gone, even though i want to get free of "supporting" the Pharmaceutical industry, which i don't want to do anymore. Benzo's are not healthy to say the least, and if i had the knowledge on it back then i would had said no to even taking it.

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Hi folks. I'm updating this.. I have used benzos for sleep during many years now. It's a waste of many years. But now i'm in the process of tampering this down. A "doctor" reduced diazepam during the day without asking me, and i'm going to quit with it. I feel a bit of withdrawal symptoms, but it's just good! Want to be free of this poison! I might take it slow with nitrazepam this year after diazepam is gone.. It's been 9 months and i think the brain will heal even better if i get freeee of this poison!

Perhaps nobody knows if it's good or bad. But it's always good to get free of poison. The brain is adapting, and i have not been feeling any worse symptoms with my dizziness i guess. Might take it slow and tamper of nitrazepam during two months or more though.

It is all cool? My big "fear" would be that the brain don't heal as it should, but i think it will adapt good. Might not be any neurologists on this forum, and i have not asked about it, but i have already started my journey to freedom so yeah.

NOFX - "Oxy Moronic" (Official Music Video) - YouTube

Withdrawal is good. If i take it slow..
Then when i'm free of poison i might move to another country and surf, live on the beach. It's my big goal to become free of this **** this year. Might be easy, might be hard. But, no pain, no gain. Thats how it is with almost everything in life. Either way i have started with this now, and will almost follow the ashton manual.
benzo.org.uk : The Ashton Manual, Professor C Heather Ashton DM, FRCP
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