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Old 02-08-2018, 01:32 PM #1
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Frown My PCS Symptoms Came Back...

For background, I had a concussion in October '16 and another in June '17. The first one I recovered from quickly despite being the worst one. (Fell off a skateboard at speed). The second one in June happened when I hit my head underneath a set of stairs at work on a metal pole. Another concussion, major mental health issues, hospital stays, the works. I'm just starting to get back to being myself. I experienced PCS up until last month from this one. A lot of exertion would make my head feel like a balloon, which is usually my cue to slow down or rest.

I had one instance in November, where I went to a kick boxing class (Only hitting the bags) and for two weeks my symptoms came back, brain fog, light sensitivity, intolerance of loud noises and exertion. This cleared up and I continued getting back to work and going to the gym.

On Tuesday, I was at the gym hanging up my coat, and when I leaned up from doing this, hit the top front of my head on a wooden shelf. Had I not had concussion and the trauma already, I wouldn't have thought twice. I've had much worse hits without anything bad happening. But sure enough, light sensitivity, panics, some brain fog. I went to the doctor, who said it's very possible it was not a concussion, and my neuro-psych I see, said it could very well be my extreme anxiety making it feel worse and that she was pretty positive it was not another concussion. Unfortunately, my symptoms are not getting better, and since with the first 2 concussions, it took me about 3 - 4 days for the bad symptoms to really kick in, I'm over here panicking that I gave my self another brain injury. It's been two days and I only feel worse. I just dont know how I could go through this again. My thoughts instantly reminded me how much of a struggle I just had over the last 8 months, and I couldn't bear the thought of being out of work, in bed, mental health problems, etc again. I thought about suicide the last time because of the pain but doubt I could ever do that. I'm hoping that I just irritated it and that's what the symptoms are from and not another concussion. I just dont know how to do it. I even dreamed of telling my wife that I didn't want to be alive anymore if I had to go through it again so soon...

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Old 02-08-2018, 07:56 PM #2
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cjaillet,

Welcome to NeuroTalk.

I'm confused. You have had two doctors tell you it was not a concussion and that it is an anxiety reaction. "light sensitivity, panics, some brain fog" are all common symptoms of anxiety.

We have lots of non-professionals who will agree with the doctors.

Nobody here who knows anything is going to suggest you suffered a brain injury.

What were your hospital stays for? What is 'the works' ?
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cjaillet,

Welcome to NeuroTalk.

I'm confused. You have had two doctors tell you it was not a concussion and that it is an anxiety reaction. "light sensitivity, panics, some brain fog" are all common symptoms of anxiety.

We have lots of non-professionals who will agree with the doctors.

Nobody here who knows anything is going to suggest you suffered a brain injury.

What were your hospital stays for? What is 'the works' ?

Hello, My hospital stays were for mental health. I’ve had two. Also had bad reactions when trying anti depressants. The works meaning bed rest, out of work, unable to perform daily tasks. I guess I can assume that anxiety plays a large role, but my symptoms have gotten worse and I can usually pick out anxious symptoms from PCS symptoms. Right now it’s affecting me to the point that it’s wither another concussion or I irritated my post concussion syndrome.
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Almost every concussion symptom can be caused by anxiety. In fact, the researchers have documented that people who have anxiety issues will have more and longer lasting symptoms. They attribute this to anxiety, not physiological concussion symptoms. They can use anxiety profiles to predict outcomes.

There is a syndrome where the mind has memorized actual physiological symptoms and anxiety can trigger these memorized symptoms to manifest without any physical trigger. It is basically a PTSD flashback response.

There have been many here on NeuroTalk who think they can identify PCS vs anxiety but when they finally get proper anxiety therapy, the 'PCS' symptoms resolve.

Have any of your doctors suggested adding nutritional therapy to try to help your brain work better? The Vitamins sticky at the top has some good information in the first post and a link to a later updated post. A month or two of a good brain health vitamin regimen can do wonders.
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Almost every concussion symptom can be caused by anxiety. In fact, the researchers have documented that people who have anxiety issues will have more and longer lasting symptoms. They attribute this to anxiety, not physiological concussion symptoms. They can use anxiety profiles to predict outcomes.

There is a syndrome where the mind has memorized actual physiological symptoms and anxiety can trigger these memorized symptoms to manifest without any physical trigger. It is basically a PTSD flashback response.

There have been many here on NeuroTalk who think they can identify PCS vs anxiety but when they finally get proper anxiety therapy, the 'PCS' symptoms resolve.

Have any of your doctors suggested adding nutritional therapy to try to help your brain work better? The Vitamins sticky at the top has some good information in the first post and a link to a later updated post. A month or two of a good brain health vitamin regimen can do wonders.
Thanks! that's something to think about. I didn't realize the symptoms could be so spot on with an anxious and memorized response. I did read the vitamin section. unfortunately my doctors didn't suggest much except say what I was taking already was good when i mentioned it. No extra help from them. I take a fish oil, vitamin D, and b complex but do not take a high dose of b12. I may look into that as well as more vitamin C.
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