Sub concussive kissing?

Mark in Idaho · 03-11-2018, 11:35 AM

The important part is proper gentle upper neck treatment and proper posture during sleep and rest. No falling asleep on the train or in the car.

Classic range of motion PT is not usually helpful. It can even be detrimental.

It is just one part of many parts of concussion recovery. Reducing the chemical stress from anxiety is just as important.

None of it is for short term gain/improvement. It takes months of discipline.

BenW · 03-11-2018, 01:47 PM

Alright thanks. I'm gonna see a pt who specializes in concussions and see if I get some benefit from that. My neck and vertebrae get really stiff and painful sometimes. Aslo my big problem is I move a lot in my sleep and seem to always revert to bad posture and then wake up with back and neck pain, headaches and panic.

BenW · 03-11-2018, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark in Idaho

[Do you think if we were able to let loose and 'not care' as much, basically just live our day to day lives as best we can without thinking about concussions it would actually help our recovery more? ]

YES. For you, not caring as much will mean you still care about risks.

Your CBT therapist should be helping you put together a list of movements that are not concussive movements nor subconcussive movements.

If riding the train caused subconcussive impacts that lead to CTE, millions would have CTE. Those with CTE usually played sports and ignored their subconcussive helmet to helmet IMPACTS, not contacts or bumps or they routinely headed a soccer ball or they had head to head contact in rugby.

They did not get CTE from riding a train, walking on a hard surface or kissing aggressively or plopping their head down on a pillow or getting a haircut.

Get your hormones checked so you can rule that out or treat it if you are one of the rare cases that need hormone therapy.

Practice good sleeping posture so you do not stress your neck if that is a contributing factor.

YES, There have actually been studies that show that those who accept that they were injured and just move on with their lives recover much faster and better.

Could you help me with the list of what impacts/hard steps to ignore since you are more educated on the topic?

Mark in Idaho · 03-11-2018, 10:01 PM

Look back at your posts and you can start a pretty good list. The train, riding in a car, stopping quickly, walking on a hard surface, kissing, hugging, touching faces in a hug, head hitting the pillow.

Very few jolts that do not include a direct hit to the head will result in a concussion or even a sub-concussive impact.

Post a list it things you are concerned about.

BenW · 03-12-2018, 02:31 PM

Alright so what your saying is that for something to cause concussive or sub concussive impacts, it needs to be something that follows through and hits you with full force and momentum making your head stop or snap back(I.e. Contact sport impacts, hitting your head hard on a solid surface, etc) and not something that can be achieved through normal movements or things like even hard kissing, small head bumps/contacts, etc?

BenW · 03-12-2018, 03:01 PM

Also here is the full list of every day things that have caused me worry:
-hard steps
-hard head movements from startle, sneezing, tight muscles, etc
-hard kisses
-the "motion" and shaking in sexual activity
-automobile jarrings through bumps, shakes and sudden stops
-small head bumps like elbows from gf, headbutted by grandmother, etc
-slipping on ice (not falling but slipping so your upper body moves back and forth to regain your balance)
-couch vibrations and other kind of vibrations(ex: MRI, floor vibrations)
-other things I've posted about like the hard heel drop, haircut etc
-jumping a little bit when shooting a basketball

Thats all I can think of now so if any of those things stand out as something that could be harmful please let me know or else I'll make that list next time with my cbt therapist. Thanks in advance.

Mark in Idaho · 03-12-2018, 10:25 PM

Put them all on the list of Not concussions and Not subconcussive impacts.

BenW · 03-13-2018, 11:32 AM

Thanks a lot, some more ive thought about: hard hugs and slaps on the back, jumping up and down like on a jumprope excercise or at a concert and bumper cars/go karts(not that i would ever do this now but i have in the past)?

Also what is the ideal sleeping position/posture for your neck and upper back and do you have any advice on how to maintain that position and not move in the night?

BenW · 03-13-2018, 12:24 PM

And turning over real quick in bed and falling but catching myself

BenW · 03-13-2018, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark in Idaho

Put them all on the list of Not concussions and Not subconcussive impacts.

or the shaky back of a cinema chair repeatedly bumping my head during the screening of a movie.

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