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Old 07-05-2010, 08:13 PM #21
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Oops...one more thing with respect to conventional vs. complimentary pain management options.

My daughter was on Elavil for a few months. I still think it was a good choice at the time as her headaches were non-stop miserable and it did give her some relief. However, it also gave her heart palpitations which scared us all. She wanted off of it ASAP.

The withdrawal effects were INSANE, even coming off of only 10 mg. She has to be completely miserable now before she will even take a Tylenol. As I said, reflexology and accupressure have proven most beneficial. No doctors told us to try these things. We stumbled on them mostly through a book called "Brainlash". Ginger Ale is good for the nausea.

I should have also mentioned to you earlier that she is 16, 11 months post injury. Again, best of luck on your project!
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Old 07-05-2010, 08:30 PM #22
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PCSLearner,

What problem has your daughter had with Tylenol? Or is she just gun shy of pain meds?

I dread the days when I will have to withdraw from my SSRI med.


I bet the reflexology and acupressure help her with relaxing and anxiety. This is likely one of the toughest symptoms from PCS besides the head aches. Tension and anxiety make everything else much worse.

For nausea, you can also buy ginger root or ginger snap cookies. It is real cheep. Grate it on a fine spice grater and add it to anything palatable. My wife adds it to juice that she makes in a masticating juicer. Ginger has lots of good health benefits. It ads flavor to juices.
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In response to never having heard of a complex concussion....A complex concussion is a concussion that has not resolved and/or improved within 10 days of the initial head injury. Person may cont to have recurrent headaches, insomnia, irritablity, problems with attention and remembering recent facts...ie names, dates, newly learned school info etc. It can be the cause of one concussion or multiples...


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Meghan,

When you say "complex concussion" are you meaning multiple concussions? I have never heard of a complex concussion. A complex fracture of a bone is one where the broken bone is sticking out of the skin.

Multiple concussion or secondary impact syndrome is being researched. It is a big part of the VA system's research into veteran soldiers returning from Iraq.

Multiple concussion research shows that the cumulative effect is far greater than the sum of the parts. This concept has been known for decades. It is a common injury to football and soccer players. (I know, the same in some countries) US football.

The theory is that the diffuse axonal injuries common to almost all concussions is magnified because the first concussion leaves the axons weak. The second impact causes more tearing because the axons are weak. And so on.

Other than the placebo oriented therapies, there is nothing like time, rest and avoidance of further impacts or stresses to help you heal. The placebo oriented therapies may make you feel better but will not overcome the decompensations (relapses) that will manifest when you have a stress or other trauma.

The traumas to avoid are chemical (alcohol and other substances), sensory (sound, light, etc) and physical (impact to your head) There is also a small risk from fever. Rarely do MTBI survivors suffer a fever high enough to be a problem. Inflammatory reactions can also be a concern. Those would be caused by allergies, illness etc. There is strong evidence that autism spectrum disorders may be a result of an inflammatory response within the immune system.

I have mentioned this on other areas of this forum. Be sure to get good vitamin supplements focusing on the B's. A multi-vitamin designed for stress is a good start but then add to the B's in it by a factor of two or three, maintaining the ratio of various B's. For example, B-12 is in mcg, micro-grams, usually a total of 400 to 500 daily is good. B-6 should be in the range of 50 to 100 mgs, milligrams per day. The other B's are not as critical.
I take two B-50 complex tablets daily. Sometimes you can find a B-100 complex, but they are awfully big. The rest of the vitamins are also important. Omega-3 and calcium, magnesium, zinc, and the other trace elements are important. Hormones can be a factor and an even bigger factor in women than men since women cycle so much.

I would be cautious about the chinese herb complexes until you have had a chance to get the vitamin therapy going first. Then add the chinese herbs and such individually so you can observe if any one specifically causes a reaction.

Back in 1982, I had a very serious decompensation. An ortho-molecular psychiatrist taught me how to help my brain get back on track with nutrition etc. You might do some research into ortho-molecular psychiatry or ortho-molecular therapy.

A key component of ortho-molecular therapy is a fasting test. You remove all possible allergens and toxins from your diet, drink clean (purified) water, then start adding things back to your diet. Those that cause an improvement you keep. Those that cause a relapse, you eliminate. Do not be overly focuses on a no-fat diet. Your nervous system uses fats as building blocks. Low cholesterol counts actually increase the prevalence of Alzheimer's Disaese.

Avoid a few things like the plague: aspartame (Nutrasweet), Sucralose (Splenda), MSG (monosodium glutamate). They are all neurotoxins. Look up neurotoxin and get informed about them.

Those of us with brain injuries usually are very sensitive to toxins. The reserve capacity of the brain to tolerate stress is gone.

Meghan, I have been were you are. I had a 93 % grade average in the ninth grade. After a concussion early in the tenth grade, my grades plummeted to 85%. It took a lot of work to recover and graduate with a 92.3 %. I had been accepted into the college Honors program. I had a serious decompensation in second semester and ended up dropping out after struggling for the next year.

Be prepared to ask for help with your academics. Just because you may struggle with memory and multi-tasking, if you slow down, you can still reach your objectives. One of the silver linings of brain injury is that it usually does not seriously effect your intelligence, just your performance speed. At a slower speed, you can still do just as well.

If you are serious about this study, you will find there is a lot of information to sort through. The various brain injury web sites can be of great help.
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Actually, complex concussion is a term used by the sports trainers, etc. that was suggested by the International Conference on Concussion in Sports. I have never heard it used by main stream medicine. The sports concussion people use it to define those concussions with lasting symptoms keeping the athlete out of the game. In reality, there is no such thing as a simple concussion. It is a term use poorly to justify returning to play without further concussion follow-up.

Any attempt to grade concussions if fraught with errors and risk. When the science is such that they understand the physiological mechanism of concussions, maybe they can classify them by such understanding.

I hope the term complex vs simple gets rejected from concussion terminology since it creates a serious false sense of security.

I know people who were comatose who have much better cognitive and memory function than many of use with 'simple' PCS.

btw, That thread was from July 5, 2010.
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