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Old 03-22-2009, 11:30 PM #1
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Hi all...new to NT, but thought I'd share. I have had pcs for about a year. I'm on various meds such as celexa, adderall, flexeril, and currently syn.thyroid. All are new since the this all started. Anyway, I'm from the chicago area, and there is a dr. that does prolotherapy. I had it done on a torn arch in my foot about 8 years ago and it worked wonders. So last week I had my head and neck done as well. The headaches and irritability haven't completely gone, and the effects of treatment will be fully known in about two weeks. But....the tension in the back of my neck has been reduced. Which is a welcomed relief.

I will most likely go back for another treatment, and wish I would've gone sooner. I'm in grad school for mental health counseling....it's definitely taken a toll on me, but of course I'm not giving up. I would suggest to anyone to look into prolotherapy. Not saying a cure all, but so far my body is two for two with it. Good luck, looking forward to reading the posts.

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Ive also had prolo in my neck, tomor im getting it in my back and hips for other problems unrelated to PCS.. Worked wonders for myself and a few friends, however I have heard of a few cases where it did not help the persons getting it

I personally definately recommend it, its amazing how many of your syptoms can come from a weak neck!
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I have read about this before. I tried to find out more about what substance exactly is injected. Do either of you know what it was?
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I have read about this before. I tried to find out more about what substance exactly is injected. Do either of you know what it was?
essentially in a dumbed down version its a sugar injection. Naturally when you injure yourself your body inflames the injured ligaments... this injection basically restarts this repair process... I had 4 injections in my back today and 2 in my hip... ive had about 30 so far in the last month with VERY positive results
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dextrose and glycerin primarily...

They essentially cause cells to break, inflame, and then trigger the body's natural healing process. It's water soluble so you pee out what the body doesn't use.

If I had the money, I would get several more treatments to various joints. I was a pro athlete and did A LOT of weightlifting way back when. Great stuff.
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Most also have a numbing agent in it too.

My husband had his elbow done 10 yrs ago. His was a mess from years and years of body building. He was told only surgery would help.

I will say that he didn't listen and used his arm right away. Boy was he in pain that first night. Duh? After that..it's like new. He has been back to lifitng heavy for 10 years. Now he is thinking of having his shoulder done. He should have done it then, but taking gluecosimine has kept it from getting too bad.
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I have also read about prolotherapy and I am intrieged!

I wrote a lot here but please try to follow.

It sounds so logical with starting a new inflammation to get the body to start up a new healing process. I believe that people that tells ous about it, is the people that it worked on. Would also be nice to hear from someone that it didnt work on..


To me there is one thing that makes me think that prolotherapy will not help with PCS. I will get to that soon.


I strongly believe this treatment could work for muscular, ligament problems etc. There is some evidence of this.
Neck-pain and tension is a problem often accompanied when you have PCS.

A "stressed/overworked/overflowed" but normal brain reacts with straining your muscles which normally gets you headaches.
A PCS-brain can handle less stress/information and is therefor more likely to react with tension and neckproblems etc. Which is a common problem among PCS-people

This CAN be a circular-effect that makes the whole picture of symptoms worse than they need to be. The stressed brain get you tensions, and the tensions itselves worsen the PCS-symptoms. And on it goes.

I believe the prolotherapy might help with the MUSCULAR-caused headache, but not the PCS-caused headache that normally comes when you have done to much/overworked it/overexercise.

IF I am wrong and the prolotherapy really gets rid of the PCS-caused headache also, that might not be as good as it sounds.

The symptoms you have is what lets you know what is ok and what is not.
For me I navigate my activity-level with the headache. If I have more headache one day I know that I have done too much the day before or DAYS before.

If I wouldnt feel that border anymore, chances are that I would over-do it in a non-health way for my brain, and therefor slow down the healing process!?

You guys follow? Im not chopping down the effects of the prolotherapy but rather giving you another aspect of what might be the case.

If the prolotherapy helps with the muscular-tension I dont see why it would be bad however. It might at least leave you with JUST the PCS-caused headache which might be milder.

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hi I can see how these sort of therapy's can help with tension head ache, many have reported relief from massage acupuncture and the like, whip lash seems to be associated with many a bang to the head, it may also help this, but as to MTBI pcs or TBI type fatigue induced pain I cant see its effectiveness but if it works for you then it works, and possibly better for you that steroid injections
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I have also read about prolotherapy and I am intrieged!

I wrote a lot here but please try to follow.

It sounds so logical with starting a new inflammation to get the body to start up a new healing process. I believe that people that tells ous about it, is the people that it worked on. Would also be nice to hear from someone that it didnt work on..


To me there is one thing that makes me think that prolotherapy will not help with PCS. I will get to that soon.


I strongly believe this treatment could work for muscular, ligament problems etc. There is some evidence of this.
Neck-pain and tension is a problem often accompanied when you have PCS.

A "stressed/overworked/overflowed" but normal brain reacts with straining your muscles which normally gets you headaches.
A PCS-brain can handle less stress/information and is therefor more likely to react with tension and neckproblems etc. Which is a common problem among PCS-people

This CAN be a circular-effect that makes the whole picture of symptoms worse than they need to be. The stressed brain get you tensions, and the tensions itselves worsen the PCS-symptoms. And on it goes.

I believe the prolotherapy might help with the MUSCULAR-caused headache, but not the PCS-caused headache that normally comes when you have done to much/overworked it/overexercise.

IF I am wrong and the prolotherapy really gets rid of the PCS-caused headache also, that might not be as good as it sounds.

The symptoms you have is what lets you know what is ok and what is not.
For me I navigate my activity-level with the headache. If I have more headache one day I know that I have done too much the day before or DAYS before.

If I wouldnt feel that border anymore, chances are that I would over-do it in a non-health way for my brain, and therefor slow down the healing process!?

You guys follow? Im not chopping down the effects of the prolotherapy but rather giving you another aspect of what might be the case.

If the prolotherapy helps with the muscular-tension I dont see why it would be bad however. It might at least leave you with JUST the PCS-caused headache which might be milder.

Emil from Sweden
welcome Emil my nice just had a baby swede her guy is from there, they called him Kyuss is that a Swedish name
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Hi all...new to NT, but thought I'd share. I have had pcs for about a year. I'm on various meds such as celexa, adderall, flexeril, and currently syn.thyroid. All are new since the this all started. Anyway, I'm from the chicago area, and there is a dr. that does prolotherapy. I had it done on a torn arch in my foot about 8 years ago and it worked wonders. So last week I had my head and neck done as well. The headaches and irritability haven't completely gone, and the effects of treatment will be fully known in about two weeks. But....the tension in the back of my neck has been reduced. Which is a welcomed relief.

I will most likely go back for another treatment, and wish I would've gone sooner. I'm in grad school for mental health counseling....it's definitely taken a toll on me, but of course I'm not giving up. I would suggest to anyone to look into prolotherapy. Not saying a cure all, but so far my body is two for two with it. Good luck, looking forward to reading the posts.

Jen
Hi. I know its been a few years since your post; but did the prolotherapy work? I'm also from chicago and have an apt with a local doctor. Thanks!
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