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yahh, I'll take your word for it, but if it worked for everyone, then it would probably be added as a treatment option, just like doctors regularly prescribe vitamin D and calcium for bones- when there is proof that calcium only helps a tiny bit with bones. there's certain herbal or dietary moves that can knock down cholesterol like a few points such as fiber, but does that really make that much a difference.

hi Bruegger

I guess the proof is in the pudding;)

but to each his own............

LOL full of cliches today arent I........:D

but seriously, if we hadnt implemented my son's supplemental treatments, of which magnesium is core, he would likely still have the very severe TS tics he used to suffer from

IMHO these "studies" leave much to be desired and only tell part of the story. I used to work in medical research and so I know how "scientific studies" are conducted:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
plus, many of the studies on supplements are conducted by or in some way connected to the big pharma companies who have a vested interest in having their products shine brighter than a simple otc supplement............
also, some supplements that the medical community have scorned as being of little benefit in the past, are being increasingly recommended by them. I personally think a lot more time should be spent at medical school educating them on nutritional health.

both my husband and I also use various supplements (including glucosamine) and also clearly know the difference when we stop taking them

are they a cure all....of course not.
But do I feel they help.........you betcha.

anyway
let's return this thread to what it is supposed to be about.....magnesium information

all the best
Cheri

Is recommended for aging people who may have insulin resistance.
The suggestion to use it with inositol is important too. Inositol supplementation reduces taurine in the body for some reason.

Also taurine shows effect on improving bile flow.
Here is an interesting article:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...7/ai_n14932826

PubMed has over 300+ pages on Taurine now. Here is a very new article:
Thought provoking!

Quote:

Schizophr Res. 2008 Feb;99(1-3):56-70. Epub 2008 Jan 9.Click here to read Links
Maternal infection leads to abnormal gene regulation and brain atrophy in mouse offspring: Implications for genesis of neurodevelopmental disorders.
Fatemi SH, Reutiman TJ, Folsom TD, Huang H, Oishi K, Mori S, Smee DF, Pearce DA, Winter C, Sohr R, Juckel G.

Department of Psychiatry, Division of Neuroscience Research, University of Minnesota Medical School, 420 Delaware St. SE, MMC 392, Minneapolis, MN 55455, United States; Department of Pharmacology, University of Minnesota Medical School, 310 Church St. SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455, United States; Department of Neuroscience, University of Minnesota Medical School, 310 Church St. SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455, United States.

Prenatal viral infection has been associated with development of schizophrenia and autism. Our laboratory has previously shown that viral infection causes deleterious effects on brain structure and function in mouse offspring following late first trimester (E9) administration of influenza virus. We hypothesized that late second trimester infection (E18) in mice may lead to a different pattern of brain gene expression and structural defects in the developing offspring. C57BL6J mice were infected on E18 with a sublethal dose of human influenza virus or sham-infected using vehicle solution. Male offsping of the infected mice were collected at P0, P14, P35 and P56, their brains removed and prefrontal cortex, hippocampus and cerebellum dissected and flash frozen. Microarray, qRT-PCR, DTI and MRI scanning, western blotting and neurochemical analysis were performed to detect differences in gene expression and brain atrophy. Expression of several genes associated with schizophrenia or autism including Sema3a, Trfr2 and Vldlr were found to be altered as were protein levels of Foxp2. E18 infection of C57BL6J mice with a sublethal dose of human influenza virus led to significant gene alterations in frontal, hippocampal and cerebellar cortices of developing mouse progeny. Brain imaging revealed significant atrophy in several brain areas and white matter thinning in corpus callosum. Finally, neurochemical analysis revealed significantly altered levels of serotonin (P14, P35), 5-Hydroxyindoleacetic acid (P14) and taurine (P35). We propose that maternal infection in mouse provides an heuristic animal model for studying the environmental contributions to genesis of schizophrenia and autism, two important examples of neurodevelopmental disorders.

PMID: 18248790 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

The first article I put up here suggests long term high dosing of taurine leads to a shut down of internal regulatory systems the body has for it.
So I would pay attention to that. Doses typically used by NON-body building fanatics or energy drink fanatics typically do not approach 3 grams a day.

Chemar the magnesium your son takes what form is it or is magnesium taurine it?Sorry somewhat lost always. I think people have mixed results with glucosamine. My mom takes it and really finds it helpful. I take it and don't see any benefit. So if you have no stomach issues with magnesium what is the best kind? On the net they said any that end in the ate. I feel so cramped and tight muscles and probably a fluke but this has been since I switched to magnesium glycinate which I read is hughly absorbable. What does the bis mean before the glycinate. It says bis-glycinate.
Jasminky I used to have very bad ocd in my late teens Anyhow I just wanted to say that I know how hard for your family and child it is but don't give up hope that it can get way better. Mine lasted for years but now I can say it is really not part of my issue anymore. For a long time my hands blead for ex from the washing. I really feel a lot is a brain chemistry too that needs to be balanced. Sorry if off subject a little.

I replied to your post mrsd but now I can not find it? I think I did something wrong??

jasminky, scroll up to post #102...that is your post. :hug:

Bis means two...

That means there are two glycines to one magnesium ion.

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Originally Posted by Jasminky (Post 226510)

I replied to your post mrsd but now I can not find it? I think I did something wrong??

My reply to you about your child appears right after post 102.

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Originally Posted by mrsd (Post 8811)

People who become depleted of magnesium may succumb to a cardiac event called prolonged Q-T. This is where the heart rhythm becomes stalled,
and the heart stops beating.

I thought I was imagining my heart skipping beats O_o

Or could it be due to damage from my chest tics? :-S

By the way, approximately how long should it take for magnesium citrate to start taking effect on tics (if the tics are due to a deficiency)?

magnesium usually shows improvements in a few days.

If you are REALLY low, you will see results quickly. But borderline people
show improvements more slowly.

IV administration is used in hospitals for hypertension in pregnancy (eclampsia) and for heart issues. It is VERY fast acting then.

My husband feels his muscles improve the next day. And I can have leg
cramping go away in one day too.