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01-05-2010, 04:37 PM | #1 | |||
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I myself use ionic fizz (liquid from powder) --1/4 to 1/2 dose /day for fast effect.
Or I use the SlowMag...which is magnesium chloride in a delayed format. I don't know how fast it would move thru your dog however. I get mine as a generic called Mag64. I am very sensitive to magnesium, and I really need it too. I try to get mine from food, because of that. I have a birth defect that causes fast transit with some foods, so I understand the loose effects magnesium can have. I think you will need to find out what is causing his diarrhea. In people it can be hidden sorbitol in foods, which is laxative. But dogs they can pick up pathogens so easily, etc. If your dog has any autoimmune issues, the IBS may be from that. That is why I mention the gluten connection. A friend of mine has a dog that has to eat gluten free food because of his breeding. Autoimmune issues are more common in animals now because of vaccines. My vet told me that autoimmune is now epidemic in cats. Feline distemper vaccine has been linked to chronic kidney failure in cats, and rabies and feline leukemia cause vaccination induced sarcomas (cancer). You know 3oz of almonds have 270mg of magnesium. You could grind this up finely and feed it to him --if the vet says he can have almonds that is. All of the chelates can cause some looseness...there is no guarantee they won't.
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01-05-2010, 05:45 PM | #2 | ||
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I have read the threads about the Ionic Fizz and the Mag64 and made note of them to ask about with Kai's nutritionist.
You are correct in saying that IBD is a type of auto-immune disease. At the moment, it has been recommended that I do not give Kai any vaccinations or heart worm medication because of the immunosuppressant effects. The cause of Kai's diarrhea probably started out as an overgrowth of bad bacteria, that we treated with round after round of various antibiotics as well as Prednisone. In addition, Kai has environmental and food allergies (she has been tested for that as well). I have not given Kai anything with gluten in several months. Right now she is on home-cooked, meaty foods only with a little brown rice sometimes. Believe me, Kai has been through every medical test there is: CBC, Chem 27, Folate, T4, Cobalamine, B12, Urine, etc...you get my drift. She has even had two abdominal ultra-sounds. Most recently we did a hair analysis on Kai and that is how the nutritionist got involved. There is defintely some imbalances in Kai's minerals. But at this point, with the constant watery diarrhea, there is malabsorption as well. So we are walking a fine line to get her stabilized. So, that brings me back to my original question if there was some particular type of magnesium that was less distressful on the intestines. I am getting the sense that perhaps there is none. Kai actually loves almonds. I had intended to ask the nutritionist about giving Kai some foods higher in magnesium. |
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01-07-2010, 09:08 AM | #3 | ||
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A link to some of my past notes on bones and soup broth (references are posted at the bottom), to back up why I agree with MrsD on this issue: Soup Broth Bones
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01-07-2010, 11:48 AM | #4 | |||
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I clicked on the soup bones link. WELL!!!! I have never been so impressed by a website in all my life. She even mentions sprouting in one of her articles and I'm a BIG SPROUTER. The article about boiling the soup bones is amazing. I have a question. If one doesn't went to do this, can a person go and buy one of those cartons of organic chicken broth (or stock). Is this as good? Thanks much Melody P.S. UDATE!!!! Just came back from my supermarket. Found two cartons of Organic low sodium chicken broth for $1.99 each. What a sale. I'll make my own down the road but this price I could NOT resist.lol
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"Thanks for this!" says: | b onna (02-28-2010) |
01-07-2010, 05:41 PM | #5 | ||
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I have tried the magnesium chelates in moderation in addition to ionic fizz. None of these had the same effect as magnesium oxide which I feel works best for me. The chelates just make my stomach go soft... if that makes sense? Is there any reason to try and continue with magnesium glycinate if oxide is the better option for me at this point?
What I've also noticed has helped is adding fat in my diet through oils... since I'm lactose intolerant most of the good fat options are limited. The fat helps the absorption of vitamin D and calcium for me. Thanks! |
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01-08-2010, 08:49 AM | #6 | ||
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My first response is that no company is going to be able to make a product that is as high a quality as you can make in your kitchen. That said, my final answer has to be... I don't know. You'd have to call them and ask them if they use bones and an acid in their processing. Each company would be different in its procedure. There is another article there about using a crock pot to make soup broth so that, basically, it takes almost none of your time to make it. It's pretty much as simple as scraping your bones from your chicken dinner (or fish, or whatever bones you have) into your crockpot afterward, rather than scraping them into the garbage can.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | MelodyL (01-10-2010) |
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