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Old 02-21-2007, 04:15 AM #1
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Default Long term macro's and lack of energy?

Have any other long-term macro's experienced fatigue, lethargy and exhaustion?

Could this be because of a lack of protein in the diet?

I am looking at the work of Michael Tierra, herbologist from the West Coast, and he suggests that the mb diet can lead to these problems.

Any opinions out there?
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Old 02-21-2007, 11:00 AM #2
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Marcobiotic diet is done in a progression. You gradually eat more brown rice and less of the other foods. (I am obviously not an expert on this diet, but know something about it.)

There was a professional basketball player back in the 1980's I think that developed osteoporosis from eating a macrobiotic diet. I can not remember his name.

No meat means no iron sources. All vegetarians need to check with their doctors to make sure they are getting enough iron. Vegetarian sources contain phytates which can interfere with mineral absorption.

Vegetarians need to know what minerals and vitamins their diet is lacking and they need to supplement those nutrients.

You are not getting enough zinc if you don't eat any animal protein. A zinc deficiency can cause fatigue. That is one possibility.

Not eating enough protein can make you deficient in sulfur. There is no recommend daily amount for sulfur. But some people do need more sulfur than others, because their body has a problem with sulfation. Sulfation is when the body converts sulfites into sulfates. Only sulfates can be excreted from the body. Sulfur is great for your hair, nails and skin. Some vegetarians have posted on other forums that their hair thinned on a vegan diet.

There are many nutrients that need to be looked when you eat a special diet. You can't just do a very limited diet and assume it will be OK. You really need to research this and maybe check your electrolytes from time to time.

Some people try to introduce animal protein into their diet and find that they will have some GI problems. Zinc is needed for HCL levels in your stomach. This can be one factor why vegans find it hard to introduce animal protein in the beginning. You really need professional guidence with this issue.
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Default Re:Long term macro's and lack of energy?

It seems that you have deficiency of vitamin B12. Have you heard this before. You can try using B12 patch. I found a product through googling. You get all detail instruction at their site. It is doctor’s recommended Patch that is required to be applied on body as per specification. Go for this patch and see if there is any difference you fill.

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Most B12 deficiency is due to malabsorption, not lack of B12 in the diet.

But a person who absorbs normally will develop a deficiency if no animal products are eaten (unless supplements are taken) for many years.

I have not yet looked into the patch, but I know from much research and experience that a reputable brand of oral B12 will work (even for those who malabsorb severely if at least 1000 mcg doses of immediate-release B12 are taken).

Those who are certain they absorb normally can take a much smaller dose.

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