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10-16-2011, 06:08 PM | #1 | |||
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Taking B12 after food is wasteful. It won't be absorbed, unless you have good intrinisic factor. If you had good intrinsic factor, you would not be so low.
So any oral B12 you do ...empty stomach only. Take all 4 tablets in the morning...just chew and swallow with water. Wait at least 45 minutes before any food at all. Bcomplex needs to be taken because B6 is activated by pyridoxal kinase which requires B2 (riboflavin). Riboflavin is difficult to get from food. The B's work together as a rule. 260 is too low for health. You need to be at 400 minimum and with neuro symptoms, higher than that. Closer to 1000. Lab ranges in US are wrong...outdated. Get rid of your doctor who said you were normal. Fire him! If you take 4000mcg methylcobalamin (active form) daily in the morning, you should be above 500 within 3 months. You can purchase methylB12 online for pennies a day. This is my B12 thread. I've collected all the information you need to improve your situation, but you DO need to read it. http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread85103.html
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"Thanks for this!" says: | Jaspar (10-17-2011) |
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10-17-2011, 04:55 PM | #3 | |||
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Never heard of such a thing... 6minutes? We wouldn't be alive if that were true! Be careful what you read on the net.
Do you have a link to that? A good link? Some people improve achlorhydria with Betaine. I raised my B12 readings to 1999 with 5mg methylcobalamin each morning on an empty stomach. I was testing out the new Puritan's Pride version....Worked very well, IMO. The Schilling's test is no longer given for intrinsic factor. But there is an antibody titre you can request for parietal cell autoimmune disease. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/003351.htm
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"Thanks for this!" says: | NerveEndings (10-24-2011) |
10-24-2011, 08:22 PM | #4 | ||
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I unfortunately don't have the energy to search for the link. But it is most likely a very poor and inaccurate link, anyway!
Thank you, Betaine seems like a decent option--but is it safe to take with B12? I would ask the doctor, but I don't trust them anymore, yikes. Unfortunately I can't seem to tolerate one B12 tablet anymore, so I'm not so sure what to do. I get uncomfortable chest tightness, gigantic blue veins, and glass-flowing through the bloodstream like symptoms. Since I'm eating a lot of potassium, would it be a calcium or omega-3 issue instead? I'm so confused! Maybe magnesium? Perhaps seeing a doctor for even more blood tests might be a good idea, because my symptoms quickly worsen with no B12. I'm used to 4x day, not barely 1x without symptoms. |
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10-25-2011, 01:32 AM | #5 | |||
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The amount of B12 absorbed orally is so small. I don't see how you could be having these extra symptoms.
I'd see a doctor and make sure you don't have some other problem. Get an EKG, and a complete check up. There is a blood test that checks for antibodies to parietal cells in the stomach, which make intrinsic factor. Also get checked for H. pylori infection. This can give all sorts of weird symptoms. Seeing a doctor is a good idea at this point.
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nerve dont read into any of the jazz that dr. oz likes to spin on his show, about glass feelings.
Have you taken klonopin before? I took klonopin and for awhile i was having problems with loud noises. That was the link. also i took mullein before, and that seemed to cause a fluctuation in noise?- is that the problem? Also, at one point i was taking ssri antidepressant, and that caused weird symptoms like the glass thing you described. also betaine, i cant even stomach the stuff. maybe my pill size is too big. but it feels like a lump when i use it, is it more helpful to use it more often?
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