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08-17-2013, 02:52 PM | #1 | ||
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Thanks Chemar for your reply. So, I guess if I may be a "over methylator," then there is a good chance that I may get the adequate amount of b12 from cyno?
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08-17-2013, 03:02 PM | #2 | |||
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Not necessarily Shane as I think it is not as "bioavailable" that way. So you may need more? but again, this is something someone with more knowledge than I have would be best advising on.
However, if you are an over methylator, then as far as I know, you should avoid any methylated supps.
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08-17-2013, 03:30 PM | #3 | ||
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Thanks Chemar. Are there many other supplements that are methylated that I should be aware of?
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08-17-2013, 05:18 PM | #4 | |||
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both cobalamin and folic acid 10 to 30% cannot do this. It is tested for with a DNA test---23andme online does this For 99 dollars... No doctor required. Did you have any blood work done to see if you need more B12? What were the results if you did? I am on an iPhone so linking is difficult for me now. But our PN forum on the first 2 pages has two threads by Muiriann on methylation (MTHFR) and Suzy Cohen's Blog explaining more. My B12 thread in the stickies on page one there has all you need to know about B12. I won't be home until after LaborDay.
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08-17-2013, 07:38 PM | #5 | ||
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I am so glad to hear from you Mrs. D! I have read several of your posts and was hoping that you'd chime in.
B12 was a little under 200 if I remember right, and this was about 3 months ago. I know that you may not be able to respond for a while but do you think I should just continue with a b12 complex? I have been doubling up on the dose so that would be about 2000mcg of cyano b12. I absolutely cannot take methyl b12; it turns me into a roid-like-rage-monster! Thank you so much for your time in replying to my questions. Shane |
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08-17-2013, 07:51 PM | #6 | |||
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Shane...mrsD may have more details when next she checks in...but if you mean doubling up on a B Complex (ie a supplement that has all the B vitamins) I don't think that is a good idea as not all the Bs are beneficial in mega doses. Some people just seem very sensitive to some of the other Bs so taking above the RDA may not be wise unless you are deficient in them
If you mean by "B12 complex" that is is just a B12 supp...that is different as yes, B12 can be taken at higher doses.
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08-17-2013, 08:04 PM | #7 | |||
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ps here is the B12 sticky info thread from PN forum http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread85103.html
and one of the other threads mrsD referred to http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread192757.html (methylation)
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08-17-2013, 08:29 PM | #8 | ||
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Thanks Chemar, that makes sense to me. I can just take the B-Complex and just add a little additional B12. Thanks for the links.
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08-18-2013, 02:36 AM | #9 | |||
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The methyl form is one of two types.
The others are dibencozide made by Country Life and a Few others and hydroxcobalamin which is More expensive. These alternate forms are discussed on the B12 thread at the PN forum. How did you get so low? The cause may reveal which Form to use. You must take oral B12 on an empty Stomach. 3 months of oral is enough time to see improvements. But if you have the MTHFR mutation it won't work if cyano form. Only about 13 mcg are absorbed from 1000 mcg which Is not much. So you must take it on an empty stomach.
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09-02-2013, 10:23 AM | #10 | ||
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age 50. female. if you need to know that. Last edited by Chemar; 09-02-2013 at 11:26 AM. Reason: sorry no links allowed for new members |
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