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Old 10-05-2013, 06:51 AM #1
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Default dopamine and serotine depletion, low libido and low sex pleassure and arousal

im suffering from low libido ,very low sex pleasure and arousal and mild depression., as a result of years of recreational drug abuse. like exstasis, canabis, cocaine etc.
ive been clean for while now and trying to strait things up and improve my well being!!!!!!
im a male in my mid 30s
my testosterone levels are all normal so its down to the neurotrasnmitter deficiency.
i feel like the brain its not sending the signals for libido, pleasure and sexual feeling to the areas it should.
i have ordered some supplements that after some extend online research i believe it may help balance and regulate my current situation.
this are.
mucunna pruriens 350 mg.
st johns wort 900 mg
5htp 100 mg
n-acetyl-tyrosine 350
plus an aphrodisiac formula of herbs containing. ( tribulu terrestris, damiana, ginko biloba, koreing and siberian ginseng, avena sativa, horney goat weed . miura paurama and cayene.)
i intend to takes this supplements on a daily , weekly basis with breaks in between.
CAN ANYONE RELATE TO WHAT IM GOING THROUGH AND BE ABLE TO GIVE THEIR OPINION BASED ON EXPERIENCE AND OR KNOWLEDGE.
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Welcome to NeuroTalk:

I really do not think it is wise to use St. John's Wort with 5 HTP.

I would research that for interactions.

There are sites on the web showing the destroyed burned out axons from the serotonin secreting cells in the brain in photos.
These were "burned out" by the release of hydrogen peroxide from the cells when ecstasy is used frequently, and if too frequently the cells cannot recover and atrophy away. So if this is true for humans, then using supplements may not help much.

Much of the ecstasy information is still fluid and changing. When you search use MDMA as a keyword, and you will find more.

I think it is best to try one thing at a time. This is easier to see if it works, and it is easier on your body. Big mixtures of herbs are really difficult. Herbs are actually mini-drugs, and can be poorly gathered and mixed, and even contain contaminants. I would start with the HTP and go from there. It might be all you need after all.

It is however controversial still, but it is thought that ecstasy can permanently change/damage the brain, at this time.
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I agree with mrsD on potential danger of St John's Wort and 5HTP together.
Combining supplements (or meds) that increase serotonin can cause a dangerous condition known as Serotonin Syndrome

You really do need to be careful and it would be advisable to have a health care practitioner guiding you when you take supplements as some of the ones you mention are very potent and interactions can be problematic.

Just because something is not a pharmaceutical and is defined more as a "natural" supplement or herb, does not mean it does not have potential side effects etc. When I look at the list of things you are planning to treat yourself with, I see a few that would set off red flags for me!
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Chemar is very correct.

One thing that lay people think is that by taking a drug that is supposed to increase serotonin in the brain (like 5-HTP)...it actually increases serotonin EVERYWHERE. Over 90% of the serotonin actions are NOT in the brain but in the body all over. Serotonin syndrome therefore is a real situation where you have disturbing symptoms in the BODY, not so much in the brain. Some common foods are high in serotonin-- pineapple and bananas are examples. And some common OTC cold products containing Dextromethorphan, can interact with serotonin stimulating drugs or products.

The tyrosine you mention, will increase heart rate, and some people get chest pains from it, or a "feeling of doom" in their chests. We get some people visiting here with tyrosine side effects like this.

So it is very important to go slowly, and seek medical support if possible. Some doctors will test for neurotransmitters, but that only represents, the body, as the brain may not reflect the body's levels. Usually these doctors call themselves, holistic or integrative. Typical doctors don't do this sort of testing as a rule.
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