I was just reading some posts on the pros and cons of vaccines (any type) when one is dealing with other health issues say like MS and other diseases.

On another group I'm active on this subject is going on to on the pros and cons of all vaccines...

I personally have not had a flu vaccine for about 30 yrs and have not had a flu since the Asian flu in 1957 and I was 18.

I take supplements and my major one is Grape Seed Ex or Pycnogenol and can honestly say I believe these keep my immune system strong and away from vaccines.

I've never had the shingles vac and never had shingles and I'm 79...what I take some times for this prevention is Lysine. I take it for a few weeks and go off and then back on in some weeks.

Just reminders on the power of antioxidants.

I have been reading some new posts on members struggling with cancer(s) and just want to say I'm so thankful for being at the lecture in 1995 and heard from the panel how Pycnogenol COULD prevent cancer(s) and I took Pycogenol for a total year and then found Grape Seed Extract and have been taking it for 24some yrs. As far as I know, no cancers. I'll be 82 this year and just a reminder for many here to think about this and maybe even act. And so many more great areas of health are from these antioxidants.

Just reading over this thread and I've pretty much talked to myself except for a couple grammar checks but here I go for some more self talk and maybe some views.... Just posted this info on a couple other groups and thought I'd post here also:

Here is what this supplement has done for me and I'm now in year 82 of life.

No more allergy and sinus drugs.
No Headaches
No Colds, Flu and for sure No Vaccines
Have not been to dentist in 10 yrs...gums are great.
Have not been to eye doc in 10 yrs....eyes are good and stable with a reading script about 15 yrs old.

On the dental report, I've also eliminated big time, refined sugars/carbs. And added for a couple yrs now coconut oil toothpaste.

On the eye report, added some eye supports in the last couple yrs.
It's great NOT to go to doctors.

And may prevent cancers and so far so good.

This supplement should NOT be alternative, if just about everyone took it, big pharma could be almost out of business....almost.. I firmly believe better health for all.

I don't know a soul who says "I can't wait to get my mammogram"...and I have NOT gotten one for at least 30 yrs....Now I count heavily on Grape Seed Ex for my breast protection, and I may have posted this before but if not here it is on the 4 cancer models using grape seed ex in their cancer clinics:

Anticancer and Cancer Chemopreventive Potential of Grape Seed Extract and Other Grape-Based Products


And here is a very scientific essay on grape seed ex and breast health:

Grape seed extract is an aromatase inhibitor and a suppressor of aromatase expression - PubMed


My one or two mammograms were cloudy and I was told "calcifications"... I never got another one. And I just about got away from taking calcium supplements, concentrate on magnesium.

Now this is what I do and there are 1000's of stories out there on mammogram stress.

This came to mind since a friend visited earlier and she had been thru the mammogram test and was making her complaints known.

One can always choose other types of screening procedures. They're better than no type of physical screening.

e.g.

Self examination of the breasts and axilla regions is extremely important for early detection of breast cancer in both men and women.

A regular Clinical Breast Examination by either a General Practitioner or the practice nurse.

I agree with Lara.

There are many different types of breast cancer. As Lara say self-examination is preferable to eating grape seed supplements as a diagnostic or protective process.

I've posted here on the 4 cancer models and that grape Seed Ex is being used at Mayo, City of Hope and other research labs for breast cancerS.....So many find faults with more natural means to healing...

Just reading others stories on their cancer and treatments and I'll mention it Again, the very main reason I started taking Grape Seed Extract in 1995, we were told MAY PREVENT CANCERS. That was going on 27 yrs ago in Sept this year.

I share my reasons and story and I'm fine. 84 this year.

The damage I deal with is from hip replacement and advanced OA and with this manage neuropathy.

OPCs for Treating ADHD: Miracle Antioxidants Improve Brain Waves

Running for bb extract now



A study published in the Journal of Applied Physiology, Nutrition, and Metabolism analyzed a group of adults treated with blueberry extract vs. a placebo group. Cognitive tests and MRIs showed that the blueberry concentrate increased brain activation in areas associated with memory and executive function.

On the cancer topic and we have a discussion going on another health group about a person's cancer that is advancing and one member posted on these two supplements for the cancer fight. Many do work to fight their cancer battles.

Modified Citrus Pectin (originally from Israel) and Blush Wood Berry Extract (from Australia and research in Sweden (I think).

I didn't check out the 2 above but members can, I bank on my Grape Seed Extract for prevention.