Had an early dinner with my friend who attended the lecture on "P" in 1995 with me, she jumped on "P" in Aug '95, me Sept. She didn't have any real issues but has been in alternative healing for most of her life and taught me so much when I met her in 1994, I was on my way with comp/alt healing but meeting her was the icing. She didn't have the allergy/sinus issues so there was no healing there for her, it was me...So I've been much more excited about these OPC's over all these years than she, but she takes her 300mg grape seed ex daily. Over the years, she has taken a break but goes right back on as her "energy drops" when off. She tests her body on a lot of her supps. I've never taken a break, only when hip replacement, had to go off about 5-6 days before. Then back on a couple days later. I'm forever reminding her the major push for us to go on "P" was we were told they "may" prevent cancer(s).

Anyway, I showed her this group and my issues with posting links, so she showed me a better way that I didn't know, so now I use that way.

She's not been on health boards as I have but knows about my years of groups since about 2006.

Her mom will be 92 soon and takes gabapentin but susie is not about to work with her mom to get off it, she does pretty darn good at 92. Still drives to store/docs, she lives in FL, we are in CA.

Anyway, it was good to spend time with her as I've been so out of commission with my dear friends since this hip job, it's been a real setback in many ways. We hung out at my house to almost 9PM. Take care all.

Here I am again. Talking with other friends, one of them sent me info about a farm/vineyard from Michigan and about all the PURE grape seed products they offer. No fillers.... I may buy their product some day. I have a good supply right now.

http://www.twowillows.us/

If a person needs to save money, I have found that both Pycnogenol and Grape Seed Extract are available in bulk powder...1/16 tsp of either one is about 200mg of OPC's. Amazon sells all the bulk products. I'll probably buy one or the other and work with the bulk, no fillers involved...pure product.

Tests done on those who smoke and OPC's:

http://drmyattswellnessclub.com/heal...eedExtract.htm

Well, I passed 21 yrs on OPC's...grape seed extract and using some Pycnogenol lately due to a new mucus issues, here in So Cal we have no rain and everything is so dry and pollen is worse than ever. No drugs though .. some morning nose blowing and that's it. 21 yrs in Sept. 2016. Found a good enough pycnogenol on ebay. Affordable.

For those trying to use Grape Seed Ex and looking to save money I just purchased from a company my daughter has been using for a year or so now. I think I can post the company here. I just bought 2 bottles of 200mg capsules, 120 caps per bottle for a little over $18 shipped to CA.

Piping Rock is the company.

Just when I think I've read everything, I find new History info on "grape seeds".

The wondrous grape seed - Gere Attila Winery

A friend is OFF gabapentin and taking Grape Seed Ex (Costco brand) for about 5 yrs and she is a huge allopathic med taker.

Even the above link I posted talks about cancer research and this OPC.