https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org...-antioxidants/

Interesting. Thanks ~mac

Lovely antidote to incessant hype about grape seed oil around here! "Sciencebasedmedicine" is my go-to site!

Members are allowed to believe what they wish and Post about Alternative Treatments as long as it does not breach Guidelines. 'Incessant hype' is rather harsh, don't you think? You have the right to address individual Posts and discuss/refute content as they come up.

Dave.

Back in the mid 1990s I came aboard the RSD Forum at the Braintalk Communities of the MGH which Neurotalk put out of business. Since that time I have read too much about belief and too little about evidence/fact. "Incessant hype" especially in the absence of evidence supporting the hype is an appropriate and useful expression. Nonetheless, CAM will not leave us anytime soon.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...MNigAMNwQkk_B9

Just to clarify the Braintalk/Neurotalk story.
Many members here started out on Braintalk (BT) also.
BT had a month long crash and no one knew if it was coming back online or not.

DocJohn set up NT as he saw a need, and after awhile BT eventually came back online.
But many preferred to stay here, so Doc kept the site going as many had requested it. NT did not put BT out of business.

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On the thread topic -
Per our guidelines, open discussion is fine, but personal attacks and such are not..

Thanks for the link Steelworker. I watched several videos to get some personal (subjective) context on where you are coming from. As someone who had an identical skeptic's viewpoint for most of my life, I can totally identify with where Harriet Hall is coming from. Now I empathetically view it as a sterile and prideful place, with an undercurrent of fear that I could be proven wrong at any moment. (I wouldn't have said that then - I would've said that I was 100% rational and open-minded based on purely objective, scientific truth.) Ultimately, a lot of time was spent justifying the need for skepticism itself. Nothing wrong with skepticism - just had to recognize it as a tool/stepping stone rather than a primary means of life. I was previously using it to deflect doubts and fears related to my own self worth.

My opinion, which I acknowledge is totally subjective, is that James Randi's million dollar "challenge" can't be accepted until the essence of its delivery goes from "prove it" to "allow it." And at that point there is no longer a challenge.

And reading this from a "rational" perspective this sounds like total semantic woo-woo rubbish. I totally get that. Lol

You might be interested in the Amazing Meeting https://www.amazingmeeting.com/ which takes place every summer in Las Vegas.

Here are a few clips https://www.youtube.com/user/AmazingMeetingVideos from last year's meeting.

That's awesome. I'd fit right in... "Late Evening - Festival of the Spoken Nerd: Full Frontal Nerdity."

Have you been to this? Looks like a blast

check into nrf2 pathway to induce body's own production of antioxidants.