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KimS 09-10-2007 06:44 AM

I tried supplementing selenium last year after linking it with iodine and proper absorption and stuff.

Well, every time I took it, I ended up in the *grumpiest!!* mood. I kept thinking that there *had* to be gluten in it, even though the bottle says it doesn't.

I kept the bottle for six months to research it or hear that there had been a factory error...but nothing. Then just a couple of weeks ago, I saw an article that made me grab the bottle and look at it... Voila! It is derived from yeast.

I don't know if that's my answer but I do think that it might me. So now, I'm going to pick up another bottle that isn't yeast derived and try again.

Anyone know good forms?

mrsD 09-10-2007 08:44 AM

there are several brands...
 
If you put "yeast free selenium" into Google...

Here is one example:
http://www.mothernature.com/shop/detail.cfm/sku/87697

I would take it every other day, given the new warnings on it regarding
diabetes type II. Until we learn more, that is.

kevinbrad 10-05-2007 01:41 AM

Hello,

My wife is using selenium, and taking selenium supplements. I also know little about it.
It is a trace mineral that is essential to good health but required only in small amounts, Selenium is incorporated into proteins to make selenoproteins, which are important antioxidant enzymes. The antioxidant properties of selenoproteins help prevent cellular damage from free radicals. Free radicals are natural by-products of oxygen metabolism that may contribute to the development of chronic diseases such as cancer and heart disease. Other selenoproteins help regulate thyroid function and play a role in the immune system.
Dietary intake in these areas is less than 19 micrograms per day for men and less than 13 micrograms per day for women,


Thanks!!


kevinbrad

qbarfarm 10-30-2008 03:32 PM

selenium toxicity issue
 
Before taking supplements you should have a blood test for the level you already have in your body. .1 ppm could mean the difference between OK and Toxic. I have learned that so much of our food already has more than enough selenium. You could already be toxic from that.
I learned all this from my herd of pigs which went Chronically Toxic with just eating their regular ration made by a big company. The added selenium was within FDA law, but the grains themselves were toxically high. Nobody regulates the natural selenium level in grains or any other food, only the Addition of selenium.
Grains that are grown in high selenium soils and shipped everywhere, you never know what state your grains are coming from. South Dakota and Nebraska just to mention two with very high selenium levels in soil.
You know the meat is high because of the animals eating the high selenium grains. Also, what about the cows milk and soy milk? Both are high in selenium. Have your kids tested.
Symptoms vary by individual, symptoms mimic many other diseases. Symptoms often don't look related. If you die of liver failure you won't have to worry about prostate cancer. Doctors are so clueless. If you run your body at "High Normal" level, you easily run the risk of becoming Chronically Toxic at any given moment.
Agitation and agressive behavior, excessive salivation, constipation or diahreah, central nervous system problems, liver or kidney problems, brittle hair and nails, reproductive problems, muscle weakness ( including uterine muscles), numbness, garlic breath, If you can think of it, selenium can cause it. The list of symptoms is too long for me to list here. You may only have one of the symptoms.

This is a very dangerous mineral. Get tested first.



Quote:

Originally Posted by kevinbrad (Post 154924)
Hello,

My wife is using selenium, and taking selenium supplements. I also know little about it.
It is a trace mineral that is essential to good health but required only in small amounts, Selenium is incorporated into proteins to make selenoproteins, which are important antioxidant enzymes. The antioxidant properties of selenoproteins help prevent cellular damage from free radicals. Free radicals are natural by-products of oxygen metabolism that may contribute to the development of chronic diseases such as cancer and heart disease. Other selenoproteins help regulate thyroid function and play a role in the immune system.
Dietary intake in these areas is less than 19 micrograms per day for men and less than 13 micrograms per day for women,


Thanks!!


kevinbrad


mrsD 10-31-2008 10:49 AM

more info:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selenium

I have read of accidental livestock poisonings by selenium, when an error was made in adding it to the feed. Because it is used in such small amounts, errors can occur at this step.
Just because the labels read correctly doesn't mean the feed was compounded according to the label.

I have seen errors in compounding TPN fluids for humans that were made the same way.

Dr. Shorebird 11-05-2008 10:55 AM

The association of selenium with type 2 diabetes is not hard science and is mostly conjecture. Various forms of selenium supplements are available including high-selenium yeast. 200 mcg should be your upper limit for a supplement. More info on the web under selenium research.

qbarfarm 11-16-2008 01:47 PM

selenium toxicity
 
Diabetes is going to be the least of your problems if you die from liver failure from taking too much selenium.
Selenium has been pushed to the point that much of our food has enriched selenium. Then you take a supplement on top of that without knowing how much is already in your system? I feel like we are playing with fire. Once the damage is done, it is extremely hard to reverse it. In many cases it cannot be reversed.
The government recently made the selenium/prostate cancer study to stop because there was no benefit and a slight increase of risk in prostate cancer and diabetes in the test subjects taking the supplement.
Just because there was a study going on, every supplement company jumped on the band wagon saying there was benefit, when the study said no such thing. Then the South Dakota Wheat growers are trying to market their high selenium grains as a value added product. Gluten is known to be very high in selenium as well as anything processed concentrates protein, vitamins and minerals.
Think of all the foods from animals eating these high selenium grains, plus the added selenium in animal feeds, plus the grains we consume in breads, cereals, and high protein grains such as soybeans, canola, and flax seed.
We are at great risk. Chronic selenium toxicity will sneak up on you, you may not get the typical brittle nails and hair loss. You might get liver failure first, or you might get something else first.
My opinion is that many unexplained problems are a result of this bombardment of selenium on our systems, because it is well documented that selenium toxicity causes reproductive problems, seizures, muscle weakness, numbing and tingling of extremeties, liver and kidney ailments, erosion of bones, and the list goes on and on.
Good grief, why is it that the first thing that comes to someone's mind is deficiency? Because Doctors are just not testing for it. They have no idea if a person is deficient or toxic. They are just guessing. Many symptoms of deficiency and toxicity of selenium are the same.
Try this one on for size: They can't figure out why there is such an increase in autism. Does anyone know how much selenium and other minerals dairy cows are eating? Does anyone know how much selenium is in soy milk? Not all milk is equal, it all depends on what kind of soil the food is grown in.


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