I know that if you experience heart palpitaions B vitamins (i think b6) is suppose to help. I seem to have the opposite happen to me. I maybe wrong, but it seems every time I take B I get heart palpitaions. It's like a flip or a kind of flutter in my chest but it also takes my breath away and makes me cough. I have had it checked out by a doctor. He did an EEG witch did show an irregular rythem. He then had me where a 24 hour haulter and did a echo of my heart. Both came back normal. Once I stopped the B it went away. Has anyone else had this happen to them?

Hi cat

i havent had palpitations but I cannot take any form of B complex solid vitamins and even have to be careful on some of the single Bs too. It makes me feel just yuck

I get my supplemental Bs from Royal Jelly and one of those sublingual liquid B drops

dont know if that applies to what you are experiencing from the Bs tho

I haven't studied B1, but I wonder whether since too little of it can cause wet berri berri (resulting in heart failure) or dry berri berri (resulting in nerve problems, which can also affect heart function) whether you might not be experiencing the beginnings of a positive adjustment when you get what you may need badly.

rose

I have copies of blood work from all the way back to 1990. The first time I had a b12 level checked was in 2005 it was 239 folate 10.8 (I never checked it until now because I was told it was normal. I had it checked in June 2007, (I was at the endo. complaining of memory loss, extream fatigue, getting dizzy when I stand up, and hair loss) He checked b12 and it was 209, folate 13.0. My GP checked it again in July ( I think just to make me leave him alone) and it was 293, folate 24.0, mma 109, homocysteine (nutritional) 5.6 and I.F. Block AB negative. He did not have me fast for these tests. One other thing, since 1990 until now my MVC has never been under 93 Highest being 99, my TIBC has always been around 490 and my transferren sat. any where from 11% to 25%. I think have been boarder line anemic most of my life. My mother jus told my when I was 3 yr.old she took me to the doctor because she kept finding me in bed and normally I was a very active toddler. She just remembers them saying "well she does not have luckemia". Iam 42 years old now, Irish, Dark hair (well used to be I had to start coloring it at the age of 27, now Iam mostly gary) blue eyes that keep getting turing grayer and grayer. Iam a mess. Sorry, but right at this moment I just feel like crying!! Iam going to see a hemotologist on Thursday. After that blood test Iam going to start taking methyl b12 under the tongue. I just cant take this anymore.
Thanks for everyones insite and for listening .

Cat

Cat,

I'm glad you will be taking methylcobalamin. You may need B12, and even if not, you may benefit from the extra methylcobalamin.

You could have an MCV like that and be low in iron and B12.

Abnormal heart function can be a result of deficiency of some of the B vitamins. A really good B complex (with the p-5-p B6 instead of pyridoxine), and the methylcobalamin at a different time of day is what I would do. Besides of course a good diet and possibly other carefully chosen supplements. If you do not eat fatty fish regularly, I would also take a good fish oil with extra DHA and EPA. I would also take a good digestive enzyme supplement with meals.

You sound like a very good candidate for autoimmune problems. B12 may be part of the solution, possibly even the solution, but I'm guessing more likely part. http://thyroid.about.com/mbiopage.htm

I hope you can get to the bottom of this and feel much better! I can relate, as my serious problems began in my 40s, and two of my kids were entering a life-threatening state in their 30s.

Had you taken any B vitamins before the later tests (even in a multi vitamin)? If so, what, what dose, and for how long?


Best wishes,

rose

Hi Rose, Thank you so much for answering me.
I have been on 50mcg of synthroid for about 3 years now. Doc said my levels are fine. For about 3-4 months I have been taking R-Lipoic Acid 100mg 2 X a day (it also has 150mcg of biotin in it I did not realize that) and Magnesium Taurate 125mg 2 X a day. For about 1 month before the last test I started taking a multi by Pure Esssence "One n Only" it contains:
B1 22.5mg
B2 25.5mg
B3 25mg
B5 30mg
B6 30mg
Folate 400mch
B12 (methylcobolamin) 100mcg
I also took a separte 1mg Biotin, I was told it would help my hair grow back.
I don't like Fish but I do eat plenty of eggs, cheese, chicken,a little beef and veggies. Do you think those vitamins could have given false results? My mother also has hypothyroid but I do not know of any anemia in my family. However, my dad, my sister and my brother have similar symptms as me. Mostly my dad may siblings are not as bad.

Hi cat, just read your message and wanted to mention something else about your first post although it's something rather off the topic that's developed. I just wondered if you had normal liver function?

You mentioned only taking a very small dose of Niacin / B3 (25mg I think you said in a later post) but some people are extremely sensitive to Niacin. Because I get major flushing problems and feel really edgy with even small doses of regular Niacin, if I'm taking niacin I find it better to take a no flush niacin. I sometimes get this mixed up but I'm pretty sure it's nicotinamide or niacinamide that is the no flush niacin. In the usual B complex they tend to use nicotinic acid.

Anyway, sorry to go back to the beginning there, but it was just something I thought of when reading your first post.

take care,
Lara

Hi Lare, thanks for your input.
Once when I was in my 20 I remember taking a vitamin and about 10-20 minutes later my freind looks at me and says whats up with your face? I felt hot and a little anxious, she said it looked like I had a sunburn. The same thing happed to me right in the middle of delivering my 2nd daughter. (c-section) A nurse walked in (there were some complicaitons I think she was trying to make small talk) and said wow look at you! You have great coloring. I was very red. My husband was like, yeah except she is usually as white as that pillow. It also felt like all the blood was rushing to my head and it was difficult to hold a conversation. I know I did not have any niacin then, but it felt the same. As far as I know my liver is fine. It seemed like B vitamin was giving me palpitaions, although I am not sure. That was the only thing different from my daily routine. And once I stopped it went away. But now that you bring it up since I was taking that multi I did not have any palpitaions. I was not taking it for that long.

cat265 Well just to add to my confusion........ I was looking up symptoms of hyper and hypothyroid, I equally if not more so have the symtpoms of hyperthyroid?
How can that be????????????????

Sometimes people have symptoms of both hypo and hyper , that's what endo told my wife sometime back and she was given thyroxine after that.
Your TSH value of 1.17 is considered to be good(normal) , but symptoms vary from person to person. You can get more info here -
http://thyroid.about.com/library/links/blthyroid.htm

I have read in forums for some people when TSH starts hitting 2 their thyroid symptoms get worse.
But I have read in many places and according to our endo. TSH in the range that you have is good. Have you asked your doc about armor thyroid or changing your dose(doesn't look like it) ?

And yes I am not surprised your endo. did not mention about B12 .But to share with you,my wife is hypothyroid patient ..coupled with low B12 count and a very very low Iron count . So better do your Ferritin test also.

Medhelp - every docotr I go agrees with you, that my thyroid is normal right now. I just saw a hematologist yesterday. She ran blood work in her office, of course she was able to have the cbc results right away and she said everything looks ok and that I am not anemic. She wants me to come back in two weeks and if my b12 level is still low she is going to start me on shots and show me how to do them myself. She mentioned about doing the mma and the hcy (?) She also said her lab forgot to do a clotting factor and she seemed very interested in that and wants to run that test in two weeks. She asked me like 2 or 3 times about arthitis and if my joints hurt. She kept refering to her fingers, at the time I said no, I have no pain in my joints. I do have osteo. in my knees, a pain that comes and goes in my hip and lower and upper back pain. The back pain I think is from an accident. My knees have been grinding and poping for years, i never give them a thought anymore. The hip I have know idea, it comes and goes, sor I forgot to mention that. I was so happy to be going to see this doctor I thought finaly I would get some answers. But as I was leaving she looked right at me and said that a low b12 level should not be making me so exhuasted. I lost a little faith after that comment. How could a hematologist not know about b12? When I go back in two weeks I will get a copy of the blood test resluts. As long as she gives me the shots, Idon't care anymore. I wanted to start taking the sublingal but she told me not to. Which I find a little odd because in the begining of the visit she said the amount of b12 i would get in tablet for would do nothing for me.