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Old 08-26-2007, 08:08 PM #1
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Default B-12 AND Vitamin D Deficiency

My severe b-12 deficiency was discovered last year - though after I began experiencing cognitive, sensory and balance issues. At my lowest (that's known); b-12 fell to 177. Over a year of therapy with b-12 shots, I've now well over 1200. However, recently my b-12 doctor felt it was necessary to check vitamin D levels - and it was low too; 17 as compared to 35 as normal. Is there a corelation? We get vitamin b-12 from food we eat (I apparently no longer absorb the b-12 naturally); and vitamin D from the sun - so what gives? I'm 47 years old with no history of vitamin deficiency issues (though both maternal grandmother and mother both had b-12 issues at some point in their lives when younger)...

BTW, I've been on b-12 shot therapry for over a year now and still have peripheral neuropathy, which is miserable some days (taking Neurotin for pain); does this ever heal?

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What's up with this????

Might not mean anything, BUT....
My doc insisted on me taking B12 and I must say I feel better.
However, very recently he insisted on me getting a Vitamin D test. I just took that and the results are not in yet.
He says that if it is low, I would take a very large dosage temporarily and then a more normal one regularly.
He says Vitamin D has a lot to do with energy, etc.
There's also talk of low Vit. D and Fibromylagia and other similar type health conditions.
Anyway....I do have issues with fatigue....there are concerns re: lupus.
I wonder if there was some study lately...
Are you taking a blood test for the Vitamin D?
I guess none of this should hurt.......
Mrs. D...are you back from vacay yet???????
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I have been listening to a health talk radio show here in N.Y. Lately the dr. that runs the show has been talking about vitamin D-deficiency. It might help to check out his web site. drhoffman.com Sunsreen helps protect against skin caner but it also may be hindering the absorbtion of vitamin D.?
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Default Yes, this has been a big issue lately.

There seems to be more and more evidence that the Vitamin D levels considered "normal" may in fact be suboptimal, especially for those who live at more Northern and Southern latitudes who may be chronically deficienct during the winter months especially.

And Vitiamin D does have a lot to do with the functioning of the immune system, besides its necessary functions of allowing calcium/magnesium/phosophorous to be regulated in the body and be taken up into bone. People with low Vitamin D are at risk for osteopenia/osteoporosis.

Unfortunately, there are not a lot of threads here about this issue, but some excellent ones on the Braintalk Vitamin/Mineral forum. (We keep trying to get some of the researchers over there, such as halsgluten and Ted Hutchinson, to come over here and share their material.)

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There are other connections between B12 and vitamin D as well. Researchers still are puzzled about the fact that people with MS tend to be lower in B12 and vitamin D. Some even think the deficiencies may contribute somehow to MS. (In addition to the the fact that long-untreated B12 deficiency can cause similar damage). All the various connections are not understood.

As some people cannot absorb B12 well or at all (unless in shots or very large oral doses), some people can't convert sunlight well to D. And vitamin D deficiency has in recent years been found to be common.

I strongly suggest that people read up on D. And, of course, if anyone has not yet read my website (not a lot, but very important) on B12, please do.

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Jon,

You may be dealing with peripheral neuropathy symptoms due to some central nervous system damage. In that case, your body may work on repairs for many more months or even years.

And if you want to maximize your B12 situation, you may want to take oral methylcobalamin----at the very least 1000 mcg. I would take 5000 mcg. Some people benefit from even more.

Also, there are other things you may read about here to help your body with its work.

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Rose;
My Neuro has advised the peripheral neuropathy is caused by b-12 being low for so long - and it will take time for the nerves to heal (if ever); however, I was diagnosed with a movement disorder about six months before the b-12 deficiency; the disorder is called Essential Tremor (think Katherine Hepburn) and is a neurological disease. Ironically, my Neuro - who is a top Southeastern research Neurologist at Emory University department of Neurology will not yet rule out MS...apparently, even though he's been monitoring me for over a year now....JF
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Yes, it sounds like you are dealing with Combined Degeneration, what happens to the central nervous system when B12 deficiency goes untreated too long.

I do hope you will take methylcobalamin to maximize your chances for optimal recovery.

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My severe b-12 deficiency was discovered last year - though after I began experiencing cognitive, sensory and balance issues. At my lowest (that's known); b-12 fell to 177. Over a year of therapy with b-12 shots, I've now well over 1200. However, recently my b-12 doctor felt it was necessary to check vitamin D levels - and it was low too; 17 as compared to 35 as normal. Is there a corelation? We get vitamin b-12 from food we eat (I apparently no longer absorb the b-12 naturally); and vitamin D from the sun - so what gives? I'm 47 years old with no history of vitamin deficiency issues (though both maternal grandmother and mother both had b-12 issues at some point in their lives when younger)...

BTW, I've been on b-12 shot therapry for over a year now and still have peripheral neuropathy, which is miserable some days (taking Neurotin for pain); does this ever heal?

Jon
I hhave the same issues and have been told that I have essential tremors. It is a heritary disease and there is a web site called International Essential Tremors Organization. I am going to get my doctor to test for b-12 and vitimin D deficinary. Thanks for your input.
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