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Old 11-12-2007, 11:26 AM #1
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Default Fats, bone, gut, blood sugar, diabetes, etc.

This is a very interesting article. I don't know how long the link will be available http://www1.pressdemocrat.com:80/art...EMES=LIFESTYLE

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Thumbs up very interesting!

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This is a very interesting article. I don't know how long the link will be available http://www1.pressdemocrat.com:80/art...EMES=LIFESTYLE

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This was very timely! Thank you rose.

I have checked my blood sugars off and on for the last year +. My fasting BS is rarely elevated, and if it was, if I took cinnamon, it came down immediately.

I've been checking my BS again the last few days, and my fasting BS is always elevated now, in the 110's and seems to have little response to cinnamon.

I have been wondering if the fact that I am finally getting the right form of B12, methylcobalamin, into my system in large amounts is causing an increase in demand for glucose by the brain or other organs that have been damaged by the B12 deficiency, and if this could account for this sudden change.

If anyone has any thoughts on this or information, it would be greatly appreciated, as I will probably be diagnosed pre-diabetic which seems strange that this would happen now after I am getting this deficiency corrected. I would have thought the reverse would have been true.

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Lightbulb when I was hypothyroid...

my fasting blood sugar went down to 70. I used to feel awful in the mornings...etc.

It came up to 90-100 on thyroid hormone.

If you move around alot, or walk long distances or exercise before the fasting
is drawn, it might be a bit higher due to glycogen release in the muscles.
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Default Type 1 diabetes and Omega 3

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Intake of Omega-3 Fatty Acids May Delay Onset of Type I Diabetes


Abstracted by Susan Sweeny Johnson, PhD, Biochem, October 11, 2007, from Jill M. Norris, MPH, PhD; Xiang Yin, MD, MS; Molly M. Lamb, BA; Katherine Barriga, MSPH; Jennifer Seifert, BS; Michelle Hoffman, RN; Heather D. Orton, MS; Anna E. Barón, PhD; Michael Clare-Salzler, MD; H. Peter Chase, MD; Nancy J. Szabo, PhD; Henry Erlich, MD, PhD; George S. Eisenbarth, MD, PhD; Marian Rewers, MD, PhD , “Omega-3 Polyunsaturated Fatty Acid Intake and Islet Autoimmunity in Children at Increased Risk for Type 1 Diabetes”, JAMA. 2007;298:1420-1428.

Type I diabetes mellitus (also know as juvenile diabetes) is an autoimmune disease in which the body’s immune system attacks and destroys islet cells in the pancreas which produce insulin. Although there is a genetic predisposition for the disease, environmental factors also appear to play a role in determining how early in life the autoimmune process begins and how much time passes between the onset of the first autoimmune response and the diagnosis of Type I diabetes when the islet cells are no longer producing insulin.

Studies suggest that early in the progress of the disease, inflammation and the activation of scavenger cells called macrophages by compounds that also induce inflammation may be important1. Since omega-3 fatty acids have been shown to have an anti-inflammatory effect(2, 3, 4, 5) while omega-6 fatty acids have a pro-inflammatory effect5, this study looked at the intake of omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids in children one to six years old who were genetically at risk for diabetes type I.

In this study, 1770 children were assessed using a food questionnaire given to their parents to determine their average intake of different fatty acids and vitamin D. In addition, the fatty acid composition of their red blood cell membranes was assessed which reflects the actual intake of omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids. In order to determine onset of the autoimmune component of diabetes type I, blood samples were taken initially and then yearly to detect the presence any of three types of autoantibodies typically present in pre-diabetes type I. If any of the antibodies were detected, the patient’s blood was tested every 3 to 6 months after that. Patients were considered positive for islet autoimmunity (IA), pre-diabetes type I, if the presence of autoantibodies occurred for two tests in a row or if the patient was diagnosed with diabetes type I.

Out of the 1770 patients, 58 developed IA. Statistical analysis showed that the risk of IA was significantly lower in children with higher intakes of omega-3 fatty acids (hazard ratio = 0.45, p=0.04). Also, in support of this result, higher omega-3 fatty acid content of patient red blood cell membranes correlated with lower risk of IA (hazard ratio = 0.63, p=0.03). Neither total omega-6 fatty acid intake nor vitamin D lntake correlated significantly with IA risk.

The average daily intake of omega-3’s during this study was 1.2 g per day, omega-6 was 10.8 g per day, and vitamin D was 400 IU per day. No numbers were given for the highest intake of omega-3.

About 7% of the US population has some form of diabetes. Type I comprises 5-10% of all diagnosed cases(6, 7). Direct medical costs from all types total $92 billion annually8. Using natural products to delay onset of Type I diabetes would save significant governmental and private dollars.

REFERENCES:

1 Chase HP, Cooper S, Osberg I, et al. Elevated C-reactive protein levels in the development of type 1 diabetes. Diabetes. 2004;53(10):2569-2573.

2 Calder PC. Polyunsaturated fatty acids, inflammation, and immunity. Lipids. 2001;36(9):1007-1024.

3 De Caterina R, Madonna R, Massaro M. Effects of omega-3 fatty acids on cytokines and adhesion molecules. Curr Atheroscler Rep. 2004;6(6):485-491.

4 Serhan CN. Resolution phase of inflammation: novel endogenous anti-inflammatory and proresolving lipid mediators and pathways. Annu Rev Immunol. 2007;25:101-137.

5 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...t=AbstractPlus

6 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_mellitus

7 http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pub...cs/index.htm#7

8 http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pub...s/index.htm#14
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I had asked this before but was wondering I read that omega 3 supp can cause excess bleading. I have begun taking 1200mg a day fish oil pill is that ok or am I at risk for other issues?I also on days I don't have the pill have been having ground flaxseed which has 1200mg.Is flax as beneficial cause I may want to just have that?
Mrs D what is a normal blood sugar level? This is going to sound weird but I used to always think I was diabetic. My excessive thirst,shaky sometimes,out of it. Anyhow I had my test and it was 79. I told the endo I was told in the past I had hypoglycemia and she said its not a real disease and only when you go too long between meals. Then other docs said my pn in my legs is similar to those who have diabetes though I don't have it. So can blood sugar for ex how you said your was 70 cause more pain?
Sorry this was off a little the topic but thank you

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