Mrs. D,
What's your's or (anyone else's) take on consuming raw milk from a state certified small dairy. Once again, I'm still on the new health kick. I'm slowly increasing the omega three's. I've added Cod Liver oil (low dose), grass fed beef and free range chicken. I've switched to totally gluten free since Jan. 1st for good.

I was supposed to start goats milk too but the one supplier that is state certified has all their goats milk spoken for by one of the local hospitals who uses it in premmie babies who won't nurse. They put my name on a list of people who need it in the event they do find themself with a bigger supply. But I really don't expect to get any because they are the ony one in Texas who qualifies. But I was told by my new surgeon that raw cow's milk from grass fed cows that comes from a state supplier might heal my stomach and digestive tract. I went out today and looked at their set up. Very small herd. Only 3 jersy cows who are babied, kept spotless and the barn and milking facility is the same way. They wouldn't let me come pick it up until it had been cooled to a certain temp and I had to take a cooler that was pre-cooled. Only a short drive from me. But what do you think about it?

They also have free range chickens, and beef. I'm eating so much healthier. Wish I'd learned about all of this years ago. The taste isn't even the same. I'm baking my own gluten free bread and dessert breads.

Yummie,
Billye

That is great, Billye.

Cow's milk has high glutamine in it. (10 times more than human milk).
And glutamine is used to maintain the gut mucosa. About 50% of the glutamine we eat stays in the GI tract, for example.

You can speed up the glutamine by taking supplements, or using Whey protein
labeled with added glutamine as a smoothie. The aminos are predigested and more available to your body. Protein needs to be digested, before the aminos get thru. And good protein intake reflects on the bones.
Most of the quality Whey protein powders have glutamine added.
There have been studies showing improved lean muscle mass with Whey, in seniors.

Too much glutamine, and it goes to the nervous system, to form glutamate.
So one smoothie a day is plenty. But glutamine also fuels glutathione production in the liver, and glucosamine for joints. Both of these are important too.

I don't really know much about raw milk. Sorry about that.

mornin' SilverLady.

I'm so gung-ho on raw milk (and free-range chickens, ducks, and geese) that I moved to the country, and started raising all my own food, eggs, milk, and meat.

I have two goats, two pigs, dozens and dozens of ducks & chickens, and six geese.

rabbits and guinea pigs too, and one lone turkey.

my only problem is my goat doe (Leeloo) has dried up her milk, and we're having difficulty finding a suitable billy goat to mate with her.

so, I'm now getting my certified raw milk from the local dairy.

and yeah, I have free-range, organic *fresh* eggies for breakfast every morning.

we pencil the date on every egg we collect from the nestboxes.

and we have meat that we butcher, dress, pluck, and process ourselves, so I know *exactly* how fresh it is, and that there's no chemicals or hormones in their feed, and no sick animals being processed.

and I'm even collecting duck-down, to make pillows!

Hi Silverlady,

Your question peaked my interest....

I found this link that "may" help you find raw milk in your area..

http://www.realmilk.com/where5.html#tx



I'm off to find out more info on this.... thanks for peaking my interest!!!


Abbie

Not an answer to your ? but have you tried soy milk or almond milk. Almond milk has very little protein though. I like soy milk for a change but it takes adjustment.I am not sure if this is gluten free though. Have you called a whole foods because maybe they would be more able to order it for you. Good job on healthy eating.

Daniella,
Thanks for your interest. I wouldn't touch soybean with a ten foot pole. I have read so many articles about how they pour the pesticides on soy in order to keep the weeds out. Almond milk I'm not sure about.

My doctor told me that whole raw goats milk or cow milk is the place where you get the enzymes etc. to heal your intestinal tract and then that will eventually heal your body. I'm just looking for ways to improve the way we eat. I've located the milk I wanted.

Abasaki,
I really appreciate the link you sent. It gave me the names of two more places really close to me.

Billye

I'm glad I could help you out!


Abbie

I am glad you found what you needed. I have heard a lot of mixed feelings on the soy. Not sure what I feel but I do comsume it. Almond milk is different and like I said lacks protein but I think has magnesium. Keep up the hard work

Organic milk is not the same as unpastuerized milk. I am not sure what benefit the doctor thinks is in raw milk, that is not in organic milk.

We did use unpastuerized milk a few decades ago, straight from the tank, and we did OK, altho, it did make me nervous to some extent. I would often pasteurize it myself and, I knew where it came from. I would feel a lot less squeamish if it were my cow or goat and I was the one washing the udder, and knew what I was washing it with and how well it was being washed, and the cleanliness of the container that it is being placed into. Never the less, 'germs' are unseened and unsmelled and you don't know until too late.

I would be really careful as their are a lot of diseases that COULD be in raw milk and an immunocompromised person is very susceptible.

http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2004/504_milk.html

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs255/en/

http://www.neha.org/position_papers/...n_raw_milk.htm

It appears that Texas certifies goat milk and below is a provider's website, however, note even they state raw milk can be a problem for immunocompromised people.

http://www.goodearthorganicfarm.com/lamancha_goats1.htm

You can get live lactobaccillus from yogurt, which you can buy as an organic product. You can also make yogurt at home.

Back in the good old days, (remember I grow and can a lot of my food), but back in the good old days a lot of folks got sick and died from food borne illness.

Just be careful. Glad you are feeling better.

I have to admit, 'time sharing' a cow, is really a unique way around the rules and legal in many states. I wonder if you get your designated time to come and milk it?

I would assume that goat's milk fed to preemies is also pastuerized. I can't picture hospitals assuming the risk for unpastueurized milk.

People are upset about E. Coli on lettuce and spinach, that E. Coli is coming from manure, taken from the barn and spread on the field, and that manure comes from real close to where milk is coming from....and when it comes out, it splashes. It doesn't come out in a cowpie....it comes out in a cowsplot...and if you are anywhere near, you get splotted. No matter where your cow is standing, the udder is capable of being contaminated, and you are pretty much at the mercy of how well that udder is cleaned and how well the equipment is cleaned, and the container is cleaned.

Most farmers maintain very clean milking parlors, and adhere to very high standards, however contamination can happen in the best, cleanest dairy. I think organic growers likely pride themselves on how clean their farms are. That is still not the issue.

I am very pro natural, pro organic, pro local family farm food, just be very careful.

Immunosuppressant medication can cause havoc with normal human flora, let alone organisms that you are not used to or that cause disease in normal immune system functioning folks...it seems risky.

I don't recommend any one water bath can either (with the exception of a few things)....they did that long ago too. Pressure canning is the only reliable method of not poisoning yourself. Even with that, I keep my jars without washing them for 48 hours after we use the contents, in case one of us gets sick, so we know what strain of botulism we could have ingested and anti-toxin can be easily identifed and located. You take the jar to the ER with you and they can identify the organism.