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Post Zinc information:

I had a zinc thread on another board at one time. And I will use some of it
to construct this thread as well.

Zinc in general is just critical for health maintenance. And some drugs actually deplete it from us during therapy. ACE inhibitors used for blood pressure control and some congestive heart treatments, are main zinc depleters.
Hormone treatments (birth control pills), steroids, diuretics, some antiviral AIDS drugs, and acid lowering drugs for GERD are also common zinc depleters.

Zinc is essential for wound/skin lesion healing and maintenance. It is present in some nutritional supplements for acne, for example.
http://www.drugs.com/pdr/Nicomide_Tablets.html
Many people are familiar with Zinc Oxide (a diaper rash remedy)

In chronic care settings zinc sulfate along with Vit C are supplements used
to help control/heal bed sores and other wounds. (often the zinc used there is very high dose --OTC--but still ordered by physicians.)

Zinc is being explored in Alzheimer's as well:
http://www.alzinfo.org/research/causes/nongenetic/
But at this time details are not forthcoming as to the EXACT mechanisms of
zinc metabolism in the brain.

Zinc metabolism is deranged in a condition called Pyroluria. This is a liver
genetic error, where a by-product of heme (for hemoglobin) is produced in excess..called kryptopyrrole. This compound is not toxic in and of itself, but it complexes Vitamin B6 and zinc out of the blood and leads to excessive excretion in the urine, which leads to deficiency for patients. Supplementing these two nutrients corrects the neurological negative effects of their loss.

Zinc is essential for males...more so than females. But females need it for ovulation as well. Up to 5mg of zinc can be lost in seminal fluid for males. So many male vitamin preps are higher in zinc than traditional vitamin products.

Zinc is essential for immune support. People with chronic viral disease, need attention to it. Shingles and herpes especially. Zinc lozenges are commonly used for cold prevention, treatment. Cold-Eze is an example. Zinc is also in the Airborne remedy, and probably accounts for much of its minimal beneficial actions. Zinc used in nasal inhalers however, have shown negative effects, since topical application to mucous membranes in the nose can lead to loss of taste/smell.
Low levels of zinc in the blood can also be a predictor of loss of taste/smell
in certain patients.

Zinc supplements have changed over the years. And elemental concerns are also important to figure out dosing (as with magnesium and other minerals). We are lucky today to have some really good versions, to avoid the typical side effects of zinc-- which are nausea and vomiting. (a rather large deterent to use).

Later on in this thread, I will post papers, to illustrate the various important
findings for zinc. This post is just a brief overview.

I welcome comments and additions, as always.
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Post some data...

Here are some links to zinc doses, data, depletions, etc:

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/minerals/zinc/

http://www.cc.nih.gov/ccc/supplements/zinc.html

Both of these links are excellent, and contain ALOT of useful information.

This site is very useful for bioavailility issues, toxicity, and general chemistry:
http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecf...no/v17je33.htm

Zinc/copper ratios should be tested by a physician before any HIGH dose
intervention is undertaken
. Unlike magnesium, zinc tests are fairly reliable, easy and inexpensive. Zinc and copper balance each other out. If very high dose zinc is used, attention to copper content is important as it will fall.
Low copper usually manifests as anemia,but not always.

As with magnesium, elemental values, need to be understood:
for example: zinc gluconate (a common form found in stores) is 14% zinc. The rest is the gluconate portion. So a typical 50mg tablet would yield:
7mg of elemental zinc. So read labels carefully. Not all labels however, are
worded correctly, but times are changing with this and some are more accurate now.

The most common forms are zinc sulfate and zinc gluconate. However, there is a newer version, which has shown in some studies to be better absorbed and perhaps not affect iron to the same extent as the others. It is called
zinc monomethionine and is called OptiZinc by the companies that make it.
I suggest this form also because it appears to have the least effect on GI symptoms...very little if any nausea side effects. It is not expensive, but a bit harder to find on store shelves. Whole Foods has it, and also www.iherb.com
(I have purchased it at both places).
You can read more about it here:
http://www.advance-health.com/zinc.html

I am not going to duplicate the data here that is available at the websites, I have linked in this post.

Here is another site which has drug interactions included:
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsSupplements/Zinccs.html
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Possible Interactions

If you are currently being treated with any of the following medications, you should not use zinc without first talking to your healthcare provider.

Blood Pressure Medications, ACE Inhibitors
A class of medications called ACE Inhibitors, such as captopril and enalpril, used for high blood pressure may deplete zinc stores.

Antibiotics
Zinc may decrease the absorption of oral quinolones, a class of antibiotics that includes ciprofloxacin, norfloxacin, ofloxacin, and levofloxacin, as well as tetracycline antibiotics (including tetracycline, doxycycline, and minocycline).

Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT)
HRT, consisting of estrogen and progesterone derivatives may reduce loss of zinc in the urine, particularly in women with osteoporosis.

Hydralazine
There has been at least one report of an interaction between zinc and hydralazine, a medication used to treat high blood pressure, which resulted in a lupus-erythematosus-like syndrome (characterized by a facial butterfly rash, fever, leg and mouth ulcers, and abdominal distress).

Immunosuppressant Medications
Since zinc supports immune function, it should not be taken with corticosteroids, cyclosporine, or other medications intended to suppress the immune system.

Nonsteroidal Anti-inflammatory Drugs (NSAIDs)
Zinc interacts with NSAIDs and could reduce the absorption and effectiveness of these medications. Examples of NSAIDs, which help to reduce pain and inflammation, include ibuprofen, naprosyn, piroxicam, and indomethacin.

Penicillamine
This medication, used to treat Wilson's disease (excessive amounts of copper that accumulate in the brain, liver, kidney, and eyes) and rheumatoid arthritis, decreases zinc levels.
There is also a nice bibliography at the end of this monograph.

I just found this statement on this website:
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...rient&dbid=115
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Impact of Cooking, Storage and Processing

How do cooking, storage, or processing affect zinc?

Like most minerals, zinc is present in many different forms in food, and can vary greatly in its response to cooking and processing. In some foods, where a greater percent of zinc is found in water-soluble form and contact with water is great, high losses of zinc can occur.

For example, when navy beans are cooked, 50% of the original zinc is lost. The processing of wheat is another example of the susceptibility of zinc to substantial loss. In 60% extraction wheat flour - the kind that is used to make over 90% of all breads, baked goods, and pastas sold in the U.S., almost 75% of the original zinc is lost.
Also time of day administration can be important. Some studies show nighttime use is more effective than daytime.


The following posts will have papers, showing usefulness in certain conditions, that I have found over the years...........
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Lightbulb here are some studies:

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J Child Psychol Psychiatry. 1996 Feb;37(2):225-7. Related Articles, Links


Relationships between serum free fatty acids and zinc, and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder: a research note.

Bekaroglu M, Aslan Y, Gedik Y, Deger O, Mocan H, Erduran E, Karahan C.

Department of Psychiatry, Technical University, Faculty of Medicine, Trabzon, Turkey.

The purpose of this study is to evaluate the relationships between serum free fatty acids (FFA) and zinc, and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). Forty eight children with ADHD (33 boys, 15 girls) were included in the patient group and 45 healthy volunteer children (30 boys, 15 girls) constituted the control group. The mean serum FFA level in the patient group was 0.176 +/- 0.102 mEq/L and in control group, 0.562 +/- 0.225 mEq/L (p < .001). The mean serum zinc level of patient group was 60.6 +/- 9.9 micrograms/dl and that of the control group, 105.8 +/- 13.2 micrograms/dl (p < .001). A statistically significant correlation was found between zinc and FFA levels in the ADHD group. These findings indicate that zinc deficiency may play a role in aetiopathogenesis of ADHD. Although we observed decreased FFA levels in ADHD cases, it is necessary to determine whether this condition is a principal cause of ADHD or is secondary to zinc deficiency.
PMID: 8682903 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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Prog Neuropsychopharmacol Biol Psychiatry. 2004 Jan;28(1):181-90. Related Articles, Links

Double-blind, placebo-controlled study of zinc sulfate in the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.

Bilici M, Yildirim F, Kandil S, Bekaroglu M, Yildirmis S, Deger O, Ulgen M, Yildiran A, Aksu H.

Department of Psychiatry, Medical Faculty, Karadeniz Technical University, School of Medicine, Trabzon, Turkey

BACKGROUND: The most commonly used medications for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) are the psychostimulants. There is, however, considerable awareness in alternative, nonstimulant therapies, because some patients respond poorly to stimulants or are unable to tolerate them. Some studies suggest that deficiency of zinc play a substantial role in the aetiopathogenesis of ADHD. Therefore, to assess the efficacy of zinc sulfate we conducted treatment trial. METHODS: Patients with a primary DSM-IV diagnosis of ADHD (N=400; 72 girls, 328 boys, mean age=9.61+/-1.7) were randomly assigned in a 1:1 ratio to 12 weeks of double-blind treatment with zinc sulfate (n=202) (150 mg/day) or placebo (n=198). Efficacy was assessed with the Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder Scale (ADHDS), Conners Teacher Questionnaire, and DuPaul Parent Ratings of ADHD. Primary efficacy variables were differences from baseline to endpoint (last observation carried forward) in mean ADHDS and Conners Teacher Questionnaire scores between the zinc sulfate and the placebo groups. Safety evaluations included monitoring of adverse events, vital signs and clinical laboratory values. RESULTS: Zinc sulfate was statistically superior to placebo in reducing both hyperactive, impulsive and impaired socialization symptoms, but not in reducing attention deficiency symptoms, as assessed by ADHDS. However, full therapeutic response rates of the zinc and placebo groups remained 28.7% and 20%, respectively. It was determined that the hyperactivity, impulsivity and socialization scores displayed significant decrease in patients of older age and high BMI score with low zinc and free fatty acids (FFA) levels. Zinc sulfate was well tolerated and associated with a low rate of side effect. CONCLUSIONS: Zinc monotherapy was significantly superior to placebo in reducing symptoms of hyperactivity, impulsivity and impaired socialization in patients with ADHD. Although by themselves, these findings may not be sufficient, it may well be considered that zinc treatment appears to be an efficacious treatment for ADHD patients having older age and high BMI score with low zinc and FFA levels.
PMID: 14687872 [PubMed - in process]
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Mol Cells. 2000 Aug 31;10(4):452-9. Related Articles, Links

Human pyridoxal kinase: overexpression and properties of the recombinant enzyme.

Lee HS, Moon BJ, Choi SY, Kwon OS.

Department of Biochemistry, Kyungpook National University, Taegu, Korea.

Pyridoxal kinase catalyses the phosphorylation of the vitamin B6. A human brain pyridoxal kinase cDNA was isolated, and the recombinant enzyme was overexpressed in E. coli as a fusion protein with maltose binding protein (MBP). Pure pyridoxal kinase exhibits a molecular mass of about 40 kDa when examined by SDS-PAGE and FPLC gel filtration. The recombinant enzyme is a monomer endowed with catalytic activity, indicating that the native quaternary structure of pyridoxal kinase is not a prerequisite for catalytic function. Zn2+ is the most effective divalent cation in the phosphorylation of pyridoxal, and the human enzyme has maximum catalytic activity in the narrow pH range of 5.5-6.0. The Km values for two substrates pyridoxal and ATP are 97 microM and 12 microM, respectively. In addition, the unfolding processes of the recombinant enzyme were monitored by circular dichroism. The values of the free energy change of unfolding (AGo = 1.2 kcal x mol(-1) x K(-1)) and the midpoint transition (1 M) suggested that the enzyme is more stable than ovine pyridoxal kinase against denaturation by guanidine hydrochloride. Intrinsic fluorescence spectra of the human enzyme from red-edge excitation and fluorescence quenching experiments showed that the tryptophanyl residues are not completely exposed and more accessible to neutral acrylamide than to the negatively charged iodide. The first complete set of catalytic and structural properties of human pyridoxal kinase provide valuable information for further biochemical studies on this enzyme.

PMID: 10987144 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
We need therefore zinc to convert pyridoxine into the active form pyridoxal.

Here is another :
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Zinc Supplements Could Help Treat ADHD

As attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) affects around 1 in every 25 school-aged children, managing this condition is of huge social importance. An article published in BMC Psychiatry this week shows that zinc supplements could increase the effectiveness of stimulants used to treat children with the disease.

The effects of ADHD on individual children differ, but symptoms include inattention, hyperactivity and impulsiveness. Stimulants are the most common treatment prescribed, but recent findings that vitamin and mineral deficiencies correlate with ADHD suggest that dietary supplements could also play a role in disease management.

Researchers from Iran carried out a controlled trial to assess the benefits of prescribing supplementary zinc alongside the more conventional methylphenidate treatment. They found that children taking additional zinc sulphate on a daily basis improved faster than those taking a placebo.

"The efficacy of zinc sulphate to increase the rate of improvement in children, seems to support the role of zinc deficiency in the pathogenesis of ADHD," say the authors.

The study comprised 44 children who were diagnosed as suffering from ADHD at Roozbeh Psychiatric Hospital, Tehran. Prior to the trial none of these patients had taken any medication for their condition.

For the six weeks of the trial, half the children took zinc sulphate (55mg/day) in addition to the conventional treatment; the other half took a placebo. A child psychiatrist assessed the children's condition fortnightly.

The behaviour of both groups of children improved over the course of the trial, but the children taking the zinc supplements showed a more marked improvement in their condition after six weeks, compared with those taking the placebo.

Although the children taking zinc sulphate were three times more likely to report that they were suffering from nausea, the frequency of other side effects did not differ between the two study groups. However, almost all of the children taking supplementary zinc complained about the metallic taste of the tablets.

Zinc supplements may exert their positive effects by helping to regulate the function of the neurotransmitter dopamine. Dopamine signalling, which has been implicated in causing symptoms of ADHD, is believed to play an important role in the feelings of pleasure and reward.

The authors acknowledge that their study is only small. They suggest that further research in this area is needed to confirm the positive effects of zinc supplements on children with ADHD.

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This press release is based on the following article:

Zinc sulphate as an adjunct to methylphenidate for the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder in children: A double blind and randomized trial [ISRCTN64132371]Shahin Akhondzadeh, Mohammad-Reza Mohammadi, Mojgan KhademiBMC Psychiatry 2004, 4:8
from http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0409094643.htm
Use of zinc monomethionine (a newer version) can reduce or eliminate nausea side effects.

This article is interesting too:
http://www.webmd.com/content/Article/104/107231.htm

Zinc is a huge subject. Here is a link to over 100 pages about it at LEF.org
http://search.lef.org/search/default...s=1&QUERY=zinc

Interested readers can find enormous amounts of data on PubMed:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed
Just type in zinc and any qualifier you are interested in, into the keyword box.
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Lightbulb more ZINC papers...

Zinc and acne:
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Dermatology. 2001;203(2):135-40. Related Articles, Links
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Multicenter randomized comparative double-blind controlled clinical trial of the safety and efficacy of zinc gluconate versus minocycline hydrochloride in the treatment of inflammatory acne vulgaris.

Dreno B, Moyse D, Alirezai M, Amblard P, Auffret N, Beylot C, Bodokh I, Chivot M, Daniel F, Humbert P, Meynadier J, Poli F; Acne Research and Study Group.

Department of Dermatology, CHU Nantes, France.

BACKGROUND: In addition to tetracyclines, zinc may constitute an alternative treatment in inflammatory lesions of acne. OBJECTIVE: To evaluate the place of zinc gluconate in relation to antibiotics in the treatment of acne vulgaris. METHODS: Zinc was compared to minocycline in a multicenter randomized double-blind trial. 332 patients received either 30 mg elemental zinc or 100 mg minocycline over 3 months. The primary endpoint was defined as the percentage of the clinical success rate on day 90 (i.e. more than 2/3 decrease in inflammatory lesions, i.e. papules and pustules). RESULTS: This clinical success rate was 31.2% for zinc and 63.4% for minocycline. Minocycline nevertheless showed a 9% superiority in action at 1 month and one of 17% at 3 months, with respect to the mean change in lesion count. Regarding safety, the majority of the adverse effects of zinc gluconate and of minocycline concerned the gastrointestinal system and were moderate (5 dropouts with zinc gluconate and 4 with minocycline). CONCLUSION: Minocycline and zinc gluconate are both effective in the treatment of inflammatory acne, but minocycline has a superior effect evaluated to be 17% in our study. Copyright 2001 S. Karger AG, Basel

Publication Types:

* Clinical Trial
* Multicenter Study
* Randomized Controlled Trial


PMID: 11586012 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Minocycline upsets the bacteria in the GI tract and can lead to Candidiasis..something very hard to eradicate. Yeast overgrowth, then, can be avoided by trying zinc first. There will be fewer side effects of nausea, if zinc monomethionine is used.

Zinc is used in long term care facilities for wound repair:
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1: Int Wound J. 2004 Jun;1(2):150-1.Click here to read Links
Wound problems due to zinc deficiency.

* Patel GK,
* Harding KG.

Department of Dermatology and Wound Healing Research Unit, University of Wales College of Medicine, Heath Park, Cardiff, UK. patelgk@cf.ac.uk

Zinc deficiency, though uncommon, can occasionally present in current medical practice. A 4.5-year-old boy with previous gastrointestinal surgery presented with diarrhoea, disinterest and dermatitis affecting the face and perineum. The clinical diagnosis was confirmed by the presence of a low serum zinc level. Administration of parenteral zinc led to rapid improvement in diarrhoea, demeanor and dermatitis. Further surgery was then undertaken, surgery had been postponed until normalisation of zinc levels due the association between zinc deficiency and poor postoperative wound healing.

PMID: 16722889 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
It is an ingredient in Arginaid (by Resource) and in various ointments used
for healing.
Many of the acne products are mixtures of antioxidants and zinc. That is because zinc does not work ALONE. Vits A C E and the mineral selenium are also included.

Here is a very new paper on zinc and airway maintenance:
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1: Curr Drug Targets. 2006 May;7(5):607-627.Click here to read Links
Zinc and its specific transporters as potential targets in airway disease.

* Murgia C,
* Lang CJ,
* Truong-Tran AQ,
* Grosser D,
* Jayaram L,
* Ruffin RE,
* Perozzi G,
* Zalewski PD.

Department of Medicine, University of Adelaide, The Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Woodville, South Australia 5011, Australia.

The dietary group IIb metal zinc (Zn) plays essential housekeeping roles in cellular metabolism and gene expression. It regulates a number of cellular processes including mitosis, apoptosis, secretion and signal transduction as well as critical events in physiological processes as diverse as insulin release, T cell cytokine production, wound healing, vision and neurotransmission. Critical to these processes are the mechanisms that regulate Zn homeostasis in cells and tissues. The proteins that control Zn uptake and compartmentalization are rapidly being identified and characterized. Recently, the first images of sub-cellular pools of Zn in airway epithelium have been obtained. This review discusses what we currently know about Zn in the airways, both in the normal and inflamed states, and then considers how we might target Zn metabolism by developing strategies to monitor and manipulate airway Zn levels in airway disease.

PMID: 16719771 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Here is a paper on improving healing following hip replacement:
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1: Wound Repair Regen. 2006 Mar-Apr;14(2):119-22.Click here to read Links
Low serum zinc level as a predictive factor of delayed wound healing in total hip replacement.

* Zorrilla P,
* Gomez LA,
* Salido JA,
* Silva A,
* Lopez-Alonso A.

Department of Orthopaedic Surgery and Traumatology, Complejo Hospitalario Ciudad Real, Ciudad Real, Spain. pedrozorrillaribot@hotmail.com

Delayed wound healing after total arthroplasty puts the patient at risk for superficial and deep infection, with substantial economic and social consequences. The objective of this study was to assess serum zinc levels as a tool for predicting such a delay in patients with primary osteoarthritis or osteoarthritis secondary to avascular necrosis. We conducted a prospective study of 80 total hip arthroplasties, analyzing possible correlations between delayed healing and serum zinc, nutritional parameters, and other demographic and epidemiological variables. The predictive value of preoperative serum zinc levels and lymphocyte counts was confirmed; thus, an arthroplasty procedure could be timed to minimize risk.

PMID: 16630099 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
I work often in long term care providers (nursing homes and hospice) so I was very impressed by this new article:
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1: Nutrition. 2006 Jan;22(1):82-8.Click here to read Links
Nutritional status and food intake in nine patients with chronic low-limb ulcers and pressure ulcers: importance of oral supplements.

* Raffoul W,
* Far MS,
* Cayeux MC,
* Berger MM.

Chirurgie Plastique et Reconstructive, CHUV, Lausanne, Switzerland.

OBJECTIVES: Chronic low-limb ulcers and pressure ulcers are a serious and costly issue. Malnutrition is a risk factor. Searching for intervention strategies in elderly patients referred for surgical closure of their ulcers, the trial aimed at investigating the micronutrient status, determining the food intake of such patients, and the role of oral liquid supplements. METHODS: Observational cohort study in 9 patients, starting 5 days prior to surgery until day 10 after surgery. Variables: body mass index (BMI), food intake assessed using standardized meals (energy target 25 kcal/kg/day). Oral liquid supplements were provided between meals. Laboratory: blood count, plasma proteins, antioxidant status, vitamins, Fe, Se, and Zn. RESULTS: The patients were aged 71+/-10 y (mean+/-SD), with a BMI of 23.3+/-3.3. Baseline blood samples showed anemia and strong inflammation in 4 patients: albumin, retinol, and selenium were low; iron and zinc were very low. Food intake was largely variable and covered only about 76% (31-95%) of energy requirements. Breakfast provided 225+/-110, lunch 570+/-215, and dinner 405+/-150 kcal. Supplements were willingly consumed covering 35+/-12% of energy target. While vitamin supply was adequate, selenium and zinc requirements were not met. CONCLUSIONS: Most patients with chronic skin ulcers suffered micronutrient status alterations, and borderline malnutrition. Meals did not cover energy requirements, while oral supplements covered basic micronutrient requirements and compensated for insufficient oral energy and protein intakes, justifying their use in hospitalized elderly patients.

PMID: 16455446 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Used in this country typically is Arginaid brand.
example:
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1: Clin Nutr. 2005 Dec;24(6):979-87. Epub 2005 Nov 15.Click here to read Links
Treatment with supplementary arginine, vitamin C and zinc in patients with pressure ulcers: a randomised controlled trial.

* Desneves KJ,
* Todorovic BE,
* Cassar A,
* Crowe TC.

Department of Nutrition and Dietetics, Austin Health, Studley Road, Heidelberg 3084, and School of Exercise and Nutrition Sciences, Deakin University, Burwood, Australia.

BACKGROUND & AIMS: Nutrients putatively implicated in pressure ulcer healing were evaluated in a clinical setting. METHODS: Sixteen inpatients with a stage 2, 3 or 4 pressure ulcer randomised to receive daily a standard hospital diet; a standard diet plus two high-protein/energy supplements; or a standard diet plus two high-protein/energy supplements containing additional arginine (9 g), vitamin C (500 mg) and zinc (30 mg). Nutritional status measurements (dietary, anthropometric and biochemical) and pressure ulcer size and severity (by PUSH tool; Pressure Ulcer Scale for Healing; 0=completely healed, 17=greatest severity) were measured weekly for 3 weeks. RESULTS: Patients' age and BMI ranges were 37-92 years and 16.4-28.1 k g/m2) respectively. Baseline PUSH scores were similar between groups (8.7+/-0.5). Only patients receiving additional arginine, vitamin C and zinc demonstrated a clinically significant improvement in pressure ulcer healing (9.4+/-1.2 vs. 2.6+/-0.6; baseline and week 3, respectively; P<0.01). All patient groups presented with low serum albumin and zinc and elevated C-reactive protein. There were no significant changes in biochemical markers, oral dietary intake or weight in any group. CONCLUSIONS: In this small set of patients, supplementary arginine, vitamin C and zinc significantly improved the rate of pressure ulcer healing. The results need to be confirmed in a larger study.

PMID: 16297506 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
and this general paper:
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1: Dermatol Surg. 2005 Jul;31(7 Pt 2):837-47; discussion 847. Links
Zinc and skin health: overview of physiology and pharmacology.

* Schwartz JR,
* Marsh RG,
* Draelos ZD.

Beauty Care Product Development, The Procter & Gamble Company, Cincinnati, Ohio 45251, USA. Schwarts.jr2@pg.com

BACKGROUND: Zinc is known to have a critical role in overall human physiology, which likely explains many of its therapeutic uses for the last several thousand years. The specific roles zinc plays in skin health and function are less widely known yet are likely just as critical based on the manifestations of dietary zinc deprivation, which include moderate to severe dermatitis. OBJECTIVE: To provide a critical review of the scientific literature as to the physiologic importance of zinc to skin, the biochemical basis for these effects, and pharmacologic aspects of zinc therapeutics. RESULTS AND CONCLUSIONS: Skin is in a continual state of renewal, placing a high demand on zinc-based enzymes and proteins that direct this process. The importance of zinc physiologically is especially evident in studies of wound healing and inflammation reduction. During these processes, the high needs for zinc can be supplemented externally, generally increasing the rates of the natural processes. Topical zinc delivery involves the pharmacologic optimization of zinc delivery, often mediated by the solubility of the zinc material and interactions within the product matrix.

PMID: 16029676 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
People who are ill, typically do not have an appetite, and thus eat poorly.
Economics also drive this negative spiral. Many people of all ages do not
consume quality protein. If they take chronic doses of acid reducing drugs, they also limit zinc absorption, which is dependant on acid. So attention to
this mineral is very important from acne, so serious wound repair (from surgery or pressure sores, or trauma).
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Great thread MrsD!

I just wanted to add that my son, who has severe reactions to gluten and other things, MUST have his zinc supp. to speed his healing when he is mistakenly glutened.

When we were first on his special diet, he did better with taking supplements almost every day. A couple of years into the diet, he seems only to need them two or three days per week. We are now four years in and I supplement him... maybe... once a week for insurance... and not at as high a level (about 1/2 of the usual dose).

When he gets 'contaminated' we do 25mg of B-complex, 25 mg of zinc and Evening Primrose Oil for 3 to 4 days. We always know when he is almost finished because he will (sorry) poop out tonnes of mucous (usually within 2 days)... Then we supp. for 2 more days after that just to help rebuild his stores. Then he seems fine.

Note: We are very low in refined sugar, using it only during holidays. I do supplement him during days of refined sugar intake and find that to be helpful too.

I'm not saying this is what everyone should do because my daughter doesn't seem to have the same requirement. But I wanted to make note so that other people would keep hope that they will also find their 'magic' combination. I feel very lucky to have found this for my son... although it helps me too, I've noticed.

Last note: Although he is does not seem autistic and I've not had him tested for pyrolles (when I read this stuff I always think I should get him tested for it though), he still seems to do very well on the same type of regimen suggested for these children.

Edit: I was just reading your magnesium thread and it prompted me to come back and post that I do give him epsom salt baths too during these more stressful 'dietary trials'. I do notice the difference between when he has them and when he doesn't.... So, in effect, I guess I'm supplementing his magnesium also.
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Post Thank you Kim...

your comments are always welcome here!

I have been looking around for other zinc data and found this:
Zinc improves diabetic neuropathy:
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Bangladesh Med Res Counc Bull. 2005 Aug;31(2):62-7. Links
Diabetic neuropathy and zinc therapy.

* Hayee MA,
* Mohammad QD,
* Haque A.

Deptt. of Neuromedicine, SSMC, Dhaka.

This was a double blind study conducted on 60 subjects; 20 age and sex matched healthy controls (Group-I), 20 patients of diabetes mellitus with neuropathy who received placebo for 6 weeks (Group-IIA); and 20 patients of diabetes mellitus with neuropathy who were given oral 660 mg zinc sulphate for 6 weeks (Group-IIB). Serum zinc level, fasting blood sugar (FBS), blood sugar 2 hour after breakfast (2HABF) and motor nerve conduction velocity (MNCV) were estimated on day 0 and after 6 weeks in all subjects. Serum zinc levels were significantly low (p<0.001) in group II-A and II-B as compared to healthy controls (group-I) at base line. After 6 weeks the changes in pre and post therapy values of FBS, 2HABF and MNCV (median and common peroneal nerve) were highly significant (p<0.001) for group II-B alone with insignificant change (p>0.05) in group II-A. Therefore, zinc therapy helps in achieving better glycemic control and improvement in peripheral neuropathy as assessed by MNCV.

PMID: 16967811 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
And here is a very new paper concerning low zinc levels and poor lung functions/asthma:
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Am J Physiol Lung Cell Mol Physiol. 2006 Nov 3; [Epub ahead of print]Click here to read Links
Anti-inflammatory effects of zinc and alterations in zinc transporter mRNA in mouse models of allergic inflammation.

* Lang CJ,
* Murgia C,
* Leong M,
* Tan LW,
* Perozzi G,
* Knight D,
* Ruffin RE,
* Zalewski PD.

Medicine, University of Adelaide, Adelaide, South Australia, Australia.

There is clinical evidence linking asthma with the trace element, zinc (Zn). Using a mouse model of allergic inflammation, we have previously shown that labile Zn decreases in inflamed airway epithelium. Moreover, mild nutritional Zn deficiency worsens lung function. Recently, a number of proteins belonging to ZIP and ZnT families have been identified that bind Zn and regulate Zn homeostasis. Mice were sensitized, and subsequently aerochallenged, with ovalbumin to induce acute and chronic airway inflammation. Mice received 0, 54 or 100microg of Zn intraperitoneally. Tissues were analysed for Zn content and histopathology. Inflammatory cells were counted in bronchoalveolar lavage fluid (BAL). Cytokine and Zn transporter mRNA levels were determined by cDNA gene array and/or real-time PCR. Zn supplementation decreased BAL eosinophils by 40 and 80%, and lymphocytes by 55 and 66%, in the acute and chronic models, respectively. Alterations in Zn transporter expression were observed during acute inflammation, including increases in ZIP1 and ZIP14 and decreases in ZIP4 and ZnT4. Zn supplementation normalized ZIP1 and ZIP14, but did not affect mRNA levels of cytokines or their receptors. Our results indicate that inflammation-induced alterations in Zn transporter gene expression are directed towards increasing Zn uptake. Increases in Zn uptake may be needed to counteract the local loss of Zn in the airway and to meet an increased demand for Zn-dependent proteins. The reduction of inflammatory cells by Zn in the airways provides support for Zn supplementation trials in human asthmatics. Key words: asthma, zinc, zinc transporter, eosinophilia, airway inflammation.

PMID: 17085522 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]
Here is a new paper suggesting use of zinc monomethionine:
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Biofactors. 2006;27(1-4):231-44.Click here to read Links
Bioavailability, antioxidant and immune-enhancing properties of zinc methionine.

* Chien XX,
* Zafra-Stone S,
* Bagchi M,
* Bagchi D.

InterHealth Research Center, Benicia, CA, USA.

Although a large number of transition metals and cations remarkably induce oxidative deterioration of biological macromolecules including lipids, proteins and DNA, the trace element zinc acts as a novel dietary supplement and an essential micronutrient, and serves a wide range of biological functions in human and animal health. Zinc promotes antioxidant and immune functions, stabilizes and maintains the structural integrity of biological membranes, and plays a pivotal role in skin and connective tissue metabolism and repair. Zinc is an integral constituent of a large number of enzymes including antioxidant enzymes, and hormones including glucagon, insulin, growth hormone, and sex hormones. High concentrations of zinc are found in the prostate gland and choroids of the eye. Zinc deficiency leads to biochemical abnormalities including the impairments of growth, dermal, gastrointestinal, neurologic and immunologic systems. Given its superior bioavailability, antioxidant and immune-enhancing properties, zinc methionine may serve as a novel dietary supplement to promote health benefits in humans and animals.

PMID: 17012778 [PubMed - in process]
The incidence of low zinc and inflammation in the elderly:
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Biogerontology. 2006 Oct;7(5-6):315-27.Click here to read Links
Inflammation, genes and zinc in ageing and age-related diseases.

* Vasto S,
* Mocchegiani E,
* Candore G,
* Listi F,
* Colonna-Romano G,
* Lio D,
* Malavolta M,
* Giacconi R,
* Cipriano C,
* Caruso C.

Department of Pathobiology and Biomedical Methodology, Palermo University, Corso Tukory 211, 90134, Palermo , Italy, marcoc@unipa.it.

Lifelong antigenic burden determines a condition of chronic inflammation, with increased lymphocyte activation and pro-inflammatory cytokine production. A large number of studies have documented changes in Zn metabolism in experimental animal models of acute and chronic inflammation and in human chronic inflammatory diseases. In particular, modification of zinc plasma concentration as well as intracellular disturbance of antioxidant intracellular pathways have been found associated to age-related inflammatory diseases, like atherosclerosis. Zinc deficiency is extremely diffused in aged people that are educated to avoid meat and other high Zn-content foods due to fear of cholesterol. Rather, they increase consumption of refined wheat products that lack of Zn, magnesium and other critical nutrients in consequence of refining process. On the other hand, plasma concentration of metallic ions like Zn is influenced by pro-inflammatory cytokines production. A major target of Zn may be NF-kB, a transcription factor critical for the expression of many pro-inflammatory cytokines whose production is finely regulated by extra- and intracellular activating and inhibiting factors interacting with regulatory elements on cytokine genes. Moreover, this factor is regulated by the expression of specific cellular genes involved in inflammation. So it is not surprising that Zn deficiency is constantly observed in aged patients affected by infectious diseases. On the other hand, cytokine genes are highly polymorphic and some of these polymorphisms have been found associated to age-related diseases as atherosclerosis. Therefore, Zn deficiency in individuals genetically predisposed to a dis-regulation of inflammation response, may play a crucial role, in causing adverse events and in reducing the probability of a successful aging.

PMID: 16972155 [PubMed - in process]
Here is another about zinc/elderly/immune functions:
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Biogerontology. 2006 Oct;7(5-6):421-8.Click here to read Links
Correlation between zinc status and immune function in the elderly.

* Haase H,
* Mocchegiani E,
* Rink L.

Institute of Immunology, University Hospital, RWTH Aachen University, Pauwelsstrasse 30, 52074, Aachen, Germany, LRink@ukaachen.de.

Zinc is essential for the immune system and elderly people have an increased probability for zinc deficiency, documented by a decline of serum or plasma zinc levels with age. Although most healthy elderly are not classified as clinically zinc deficient, even marginal zinc deprivation can affect immune function. Several striking similarities in the immunological changes during aging and zinc deficiency, including a reduction in the activity of the thymus and thymic hormones, a shift of the T helper cell balance towards TH2, decreased response to vaccination, and impaired functions of innae immune cells indicate that a wide prevalence of marginal zinc deficiency in elderly people may contribute to immunosenescence. Studies with oral zinc supplementation show the potential to improve the immune response of elderly people by restoration of the zinc levels, showing that balancing the zinc status may be a way to healthy aging. This review summarizes the current literature about zinc supplementation in the elderly and thereby defines the rationale for the immunological part of the ZINCAGE project.

PMID: 16953331 [PubMed - in process]
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Default Zinc Bioavailability Studies

The following studies indicate the best/worst bioavailable forms of zinc supplements. I came across these while researching zinc:

Zinc Picolinate was found to be the most bioavailable form of those tested in the following study:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

The following studies indicate zinc-methionine is less bioavailable than thought. The reason is purported that the bond between elemental zinc and methionine is too weak to remain stable:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...t_uids=2506318
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

Full Text of PMID 10801947:
http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/130/5/1378S

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Methionine complexes of zinc have been used to improve zinc absorption from the diet, but besides improved carcass quality in steers (Greene et al. 1988 ), there is limited evidence for this. Hempe and Cousins (1989) found that the zinc-methionine complex reduces zinc absorption in ligated rat duodenal loops, which is in agreement with similar observations on intestines from swine and poultry (Hill et al. 1987 ). Because the proportion of absorbed 65Zn was similar in rats fed ZnC12 or zinc-methionine, they concluded that the zinc-methionine complex is not absorbed intact. Thus, the association of zinc to methionine may be too weak to make the complex "survive" passage in the upper gastrointestinal tract, and dissociation of zinc and reassociation with other ligands may occur.
The above study was published by this person:
http://nutrition.ucdavis.edu/faculty/lonnerdal.html

A “less technical” summary of zinc information and bioavailability may be found as follows (includes study references):
http://www.bulknutrition.com/i9_Zinc.html
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Post with all due respect....

West... that first study was done in 1987, long before zinc monomethionine was commonly available for humans. It was not evaluated at all in that study.

Zinc Picoloinate is also a good form, however, picolinic acid cannot be
tolerated by some patients...namely bipolars.

Zinc is absorbed throughout the GI tract...beginning in the stomach.
There are many sites in fact.
http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecf...no/v17je33.htm
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Zinc, as contained in food and drink, is absorbed through the gut
mucosa which is the normal route of entry into the body. It is
absorbed at several sites in the gastrointestinal tract. The initial
site of absorption is the stomach and occurs within 15 minutes after
ingestion; however, the major site is the second portion of duodenum.
Absorption also occurs in other segments of both the small and large
intestine (Henkin & Aamodt, 1975; Methfessel & Spencer, 1973a,b).


The exact mechanism by which zinc is transported across the
gastrointestinal mucosa and serosa is not known. The formation of a
low molecular weight organic zinc chelate is thought to be the initial
event, possibly a tetrahedral quadradentate ligand formed from a small
organic molecule and the zinc, and it is this complex which is
absorbed from the gastrointestinal tract (Suso & Edwards, 1971a,b).
Studies on rats suggest that metallothionein, a low molecular weight
cytoplasmic metalloprotein, plays a key role in zinc haemostasis
(Richards & Cousins, 1976; Hall et al., 1979). It has been shown in
rats that there is a direct correlation between the dietary zinc
intake and the binding of zinc of intestinal mucosal metallothionein
(Hall et al., 1979). The absorption of zinc can be affected by many
substances. Both phytate and soy protein inhibit the formation of the
zinc-protein complex and as a result diminish the absorption of zinc
(Davis, 1972; O'Dell & Savage, 1960; Reinhold et al., 1973). Other
substances which adversely affect zinc absorption include cotton-seed,
peanut, safflower, calcium, phosphate, food and zinc itself (Davis,
1972; Heth et al., 1966; Nielsen et al., 1966a,b; Pecoud et al., 1975;
Schelling et al., 1973; Smith et al., 1962). The body burden of zinc
can be diminished either by reductions in the amount of zinc absorbed
as seen in several types of malabsorptive processes or by increases in
the removal of zinc from the body. The latter is evidenced by
increases in excretion seen in intrinsic kidney disease, reduced
plasma metal binding which is congenital in origin and inborn errors
of metabolism (Slavik et al., 1973a,b). The absorption of zinc has
been shown to be enhanced by the presence of histidine, cysteine,
methionine and ethylenediamine tetracetic acid. These are thought to
act by promoting the formation of the low molecular weight organic
zinc complex (Giroux, 1972; Nielsen, 1966a,b)
. The diminution of zinc
absorption can be species dependent, since in the rat a low protein
diet is associated with a reduction in zinc absorption, while the
reverse is the case with humans.
Feeding studies with rats showed
that for absorbed zinc the faeces constitutes the major route of
elimination. Only minor amounts are eliminated in the urine.
Administration of large amounts of zinc did not result in elevated
tissue levels of zinc (Heller & Burke, 1927; Drinker et al., 1927a,b),
since increasing the level of zinc in the diet results in decreased
absorption.
This quoted PubMed abstract says:
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Amino acids, such as histidine and methionine, and other low-molecular-weight ions, such as EDTA and organic acids (e.g., citrate), are known to have a positive effect on zinc absorption and have been used for zinc supplements.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

Basically a chelate is better tolerated. That is true with other minerals.
They tend to be absorbed more efficiently with less side effects. Zinc can cause nausea/vomiting..so side effects are important.

I am not a fan of "bulk nutrition" sites... these are body building sites, and not written by professionals.

While the case against picolinic acid is weak...there are references to high intakes and negative effects for some patients:
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In theory, picolinic acid, a component often found with chromium, may alter the metabolism of certain chemicals in the brain. If these chemicals are altered, the doses of some drugs used to treat conditions such as depression or Parkinson's disease may need to be changed.
from http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH...l?d=dmtContent
The amount in 200mcg(microgram) of chromium picolinate (which is usually cited as a common source of picolinic acid is much smaller than the 25 milligram amount of a standard zinc picolinate tablet. So since the newer zinc does not have this potential, and still shows good reports in most recent studies, I prefer recommending it.

People are still free to use the picolinate version if they choose. The chelates in general are better than the old "sulfate" form.
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Default Re: with all due respect....

Did you look over this abstract that I included http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract, dated Jan. 1998, which has the following quote?

Quote:
Steady-state uptake of 65Zn by human intestine epithelial cells, and monkey kidney fibroblasts was not significantly different with zinc chloride (ZnCl2), ZnMet, or zinc propionate (ZnProp) (P > 0.05).
(I tend to not quote from linked abstracts and documents unless the interesting information is buried deep within.)

Your highlighted area of http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecf...no/v17je33.htm states, “however, the major site (of zinc absorption) is the second portion of duodenum”.

Per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duodenum, the function of the duodenum is…

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The duodenum is largely responsible for the breakdown of food in the small intestine. Brunner's glands are only found in the duodenum and they secrete mucus. These mucus filled glands are composed of simple cuboidal epithelial cells. The duodenum wall is composed of a very thin layer of cells that forms the muscularis mucosae.The duodenum is almost entirely retroperitoneal. The pH in the duodenum is approximately nine (slightly basic).
Also, my impression from reading the full text version of PMID 10801947 http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/130/5/1378S was although it seems logical that the zinc-methionine complex should be highly absorbable, certain tests have not appeared to bear this out.



It’s really not that big of a deal to me, I just think it’s good to provide information and references from all angles (or conflicting studies) and people can then decide how to supplement based on their needs/preferences.
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Lightbulb Well, West..

I always enjoy your weblinks. Keep them coming. Interpreting them sometimes is confusing...for everyone. Some studies are very technical, and some use medical jargon.

The word epithelial is not limited to only certain places. Epithelial cells are everywhere in the GI tract. They are the first cells, that separate the body
from the environment. They are part your skin and all mucous membranes.

Your first quote is confusing too. Since zinc chloride and zinc proprionate are not commonly available as supplements. The article would have been more interesting and useful if it compared zinc sulfate, zinc oxide and zinc monomethionine. These latter 3 are typically used in humans. Also often the differences in mineral absorption many be very small. Here is an example:
Calcium Citrate is advertised as "more absorbable"..and it is. By a couple of percentage points only compared to calcium carbonate. This may be in reality of little consequence to the body, when calcium is needed. What calcium citrate IS important for, is for patients who are prone to calcium oxalate kidney stones. But you don't see THAT advertised at all!

We are sort of stuck with the studies that exist because in the supplement world there is not alot of funding for anything! Much of what I see in studies for example comes from Europe...because in USA the drug companies do not want us to know about other ways of improving health, and federal funding was cut several years ago. Some universities still do studies but they are less common that drug company funded studies. Also some studies on minerals, vitamins concern ANIMALS, vet uses, because the food industry gives things to them in feed, to improve meat quanitity and quality. For example I see alot of poultry studies.

Zinc is awful to take in the wrong form. So if zinc monomethionine shares good absorption with others, and does not cause nausea/vomiting, well, I think that is a plus. Zinc Picolinate also is easier. I personally like the OptiZinc since it also includes a small amount of copper, to offset any changes to the copper/zinc ratios.
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