Wonderful...
Thank you Paul, for doing all that work!
The links are fabulous! I would only make one tiny suggestion. Using hyperlinks conceals the website location you are recommending. I myself prefer seeing that real link addy before clicking on them. It is a safety thing for me. I know it would be "WORK" to put the real links under each title. But perhaps more people would feel comfortable seeing those as well? Contributions such as yours, are always welcome on any of my threads. We all learn from each other in the end! |
Yes thank you so much. That was so kind of you and you put so much work into this. Your all amazing to people like me who are clueless.
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Links to References for EFA
Hello mrsd,
You asked about knowing the hyperlink destination before selecting it: Quote:
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By the way, it is possible to trick someone with a fake link. Try this one: Here is the link to Rose's web site: http://roseannster.googlepages.com/home No, actually, it isn't. Here is the real one: http://roseannster.googlepages.com/home Nasty trick! This is possible because links are added separately in the editor for this forum. If in doubt, check the URL using the method that I have described. Paul |
cursoring over...
does not work in Firefox.
The net being what it is, I also am thinking of others, that's all. It is actually more work for you to create a hyperlink. |
Links to References for EFA
Hello mrsd,
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just a comment on the links:
we dont mind hyperlinks *provided* that they do not lead to commercial or affiliate sites. I do know that many people do feel nervous to click on hyperlinks, especially those who may not be all that computer savvy and so not understand how to set preferences etc etc, Paul, I am unable to see any URLs when hovvering on those hyperlinks on either IE or Firefox, but I do know that a right click on the mouse and then checking properties can also show the actual URL if one is concerned I think the important thing is usually who is posting the links.......when the member has been active a while, and has shown their *colors* ...... one usually feels less concerned as to where their links may lead:D thanks for providing all this good info on EFAs. :) Omega3 is an essential component for my son both for his Tourette Syndrome and especially for his Crohn's Disease Cheri |
the explanation about hovering and the status bar {at the bottom of your browser/screen- the very thin bar that is there- if you have it set to show}
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I guess
it depends on the version/skin one is using in FF.
Mine won't click the status bar... nothing changes when I try it. I have a theme called Yellow button (something like that). It is very simple. This is it... orbit yellow... I am going to try and update it. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2562 I went to the customize section and there were buttons that could be added, but no status bar there. We have customized links at the top to NYTimes and a couple of others. here is a quote from Firefox: Quote:
I fiddled around a bit, by clicking it more than once and finally got the bar to work. It just is not obvious like one would expect. Everything is such a battle with computers....we have been having a running battle with our printer which is now going to get replaced. I guess 3 yrs is it for those. We bought a new one yesterday, and my husband is struggling again with the fax hook up.... sorry to be dense. |
I just want to say that I think this is an AMAZING thread...so informative. You all have taught me things I didn't know existed let alone thought to research and understand.
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bumping up...
Even processed food today, is making an attempt to increase Omega-3
content! Today-- we went to Costco, and low and behold... They have a new brand of Chicken Nuggets for sale (bulk sales). Gone is Tyson ... In are Yummy brand nuggets, made with Canola oil containing 300mg of Omega-3 per 4 nuggets! Made in Canada! My husband uses these for lunch sometimes. And I used to take nuggets to work, but since not working, I have passed on them. These are new, and while a bit high in sodium (like most processed foods -- 450mg/4 nuggets), they are less sinful than other processed chicken. I see these as a good item for kids, who need Omega-3 foods and who like finger food. There are only 7 grams of fat in a serving of these new ones! --NO transfats, either. http://www.maxi.com/engproducts.html |
bumping up...
I am bumping this up with a link to another thread here...that is connected.
It is interesting now, that eye doctors are recommending EFAs ... The product is expensive...but you can do the same thing at much less cost: http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread46796.html |
bumping up...
bumping up the thread-while I am on vacation.
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solutions II have found
Hi, Have recently been dx with ala - after three years of symptoms.
I have solved all chokingproblem by massage throat either side of windpipe for 30 secs - then I can swallow all my medication and drink with no problem. I have also found that nibbling walnuts throughout the day seems helpful in keeping my speech close to normal :) |
Efa
I have supplemented with EFA for years - and also eat fish, avocadoes, cold pressed extra virgin olive oil. I alternate between Fish Oil and Linseed oil for my Omega 3, 6, 9 intake.
I was taking Magnesium as an Amino Acid Chelate but can no longer swallow such huge tablets. I found a capsule that contains Magnesium complex ( Magnesium orotate 150mcg. magnesium aspartate 150mcg and magnesium oxide 170mcg - total magnesium 114.4mg, pyridoxine hydrochloride Vit B6 25mg, zinc (as gluconate) 3.92mg and Viburnum opulus (cramp Bark) ext equiv. stem bark inner dry 250mg) would be interested to hear comments.:) as well as ALA I have type 2 diabetes notwithstanding the fact that I have maintained a size 10 since my teens and I have renal failure caused by my mother not eating sufficient protein when she was carrying me. This leads to insufficient nephrons in kidneys. So supplementing is not easy |
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fatty acids and Alzheimer's:
This article is in our Health News forum today:
http://www.medilexicon.com/medicalne...?newsid=126012 Quote:
It is also present in eggs, and saturated fats. This is a pretty good article on AA from the Authors of Protein Power: http://www.opinions3.com/arachidonic_acid.htm While we NEED AA to some extent, it is the excess of it that seems to be the problem. Adding more omega-3 flax oil to the diet helps to reduce the overload of PGE2s. I am going to try the beef marinade that is on the Eades' website to see how it is. We have beef about 3 times a week. Quote:
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I have a ? I take 2 fish oil pills daily which is 2400mg total. I still am suffering from severe dry eye/skin/and my pain from the rsd/pn. Anyhow at times I was taking flaxseed but now haven't been. Can I add more fish oil pills or flaxseed pills in addition to what I am taking or is this the upper limit the 2400 mg in supplements?
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If you want to improve quality of skin
I think flax oil is best.
Fish oil is for reducing inflammation. The DHA in fish oil, does help with cell membrane repair, and also neurotransmitter receptors in the brain. Fish oil is a long chain fatty acid that is made from the Flax. About 20-24% of the ALA in flax gets changed to EPA and DHA in women. That means the 75% rest of the flax oil is used for something else. (other important things). The EPA and DHA are end results of the long chemical process using ALA (alpha linolenic acid) and Omega-6's which are essential, which are the first step. So in some ways EPA and DHA are limited in what they do for you. |
Thank you. I will add the flax.
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2 capsules
may say 2.4grms...but that is not the amount of active ingredient in a typical fish oil.
The EPA and DHA levels are much less. It is confusing but some papers mean 2 grms of EPA etc, not the total weight of the capsule itself. for example ..RX Lovaza: Quote:
The papers don't always clarify the doses, and labels can be confusing. |
Jaspar and Mrs D thanks. My D level and thyroid is fine. I know when I saw that holistic doctor he wanted me to take a lot but also felt that way on other supplements. So I should I take 2 fish oil and 2 flaxseed pills? That would give me 2000mg of flax and 2400mg of fish oil. I have no idea the conversion. I wish they would make this easier for the consumer. I remember this with magnesium too.
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yes, sounds fine.
Make sure you take with food.
You will need B6 too for conversion of the fats. |
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new paper on cardio-protective effects:
I just found this today... doses are not listed, but it is a very positive article:
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More questions
I have an Rx for Lovaza for heart health, but know Mrs. D. uses the Costco brand that is enteric coated. I had also read that some of the better fish oils are more readily absorbed than capsules. Is one form better than the other for absorbability and metabolization by our bodies? Also, what are the cofactors needed for metabolization of fish or flax oil? I have been reading all of your past and current posts, Mrs. Doubtfyre, but am having trouble putting all of the facts together in a brain absorbable form. . .
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I am not aware of "more absorbable fish oil"
All the fish oils I know of are oils. Hence they are best
absorbed with food present. The bile released at mealtimes emulsifies the oil and improves absorption. There are some liquid emulsified oils. Here is an article about Coromega: http://www.coromega.com/01What/f_bio...ty/f_body.html Whether this is necessary for most people remains questionable. The emulsified forms are more expensive, and were mostly used by people who couldn't swallow large capsules, and for children. You can use your Lovaza. My comments are about the hype surrounding it...which may not be exactly true, to account for its increased price. If your insurance pays for it, then the price is not an issue. I do like the fact that the new nutraceuticals that the drug industry are making like Lovaza educate doctors more and help everyone get access to fish oil or other useful things. But the cost to the patient involved is unpleasant IMO. For example my insurance is going up in January, as I assume many others will be affected as well. The most reasonable way for me to obtain an RX medication is by mail order. A 3 month supply for me is going up to $65. So a 3 month supply of Lovaza would cost far more than a 3 month supply of double strength fish oil over the counter. So even WITH insurance people may be paying more for Lovaza. |
bumping for a new study:
There is a new study being shared now that is very interesting.
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In the meantime, take those fish oil caps, or at least DHA. |
Here is a new study showing Omega-3s from fish and supplements may stave off colon cancer in white patients:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100423/...s_omega_cancer The African American study subjects did not show statistical improvement however in this study. It is another step in the direction of good preventive help for major diseases of aging. |
Here is a new study on high EPA fish oil and depression:
http://psychcentral.com/news/2010/06...ion/14854.html OmegaBrite is one brand with this ratio. |
I just got a shipment from Puritan's Pride......Omega-3 Fish Oil capsules 1200 mg. The directions say take 2 softgels one to three times a day. What is the optimal dosage? There's a big difference between taking 2 a day and 6 a day.
Thanks! :) |
We never take really high dose...and we see benefits.
I'd do one regular strength twice a day with a meal to start. We started at one a day, but then I removed transfats and lowered omega-6 consumption at the same time. We also took one flax oil a day. If your goal is to reduce severe inflammation from your MS, you can then raise the fish oil as you see fit, after you see what 2 a day do for you. Now most of the inflammatory transfats are out of our foods as well, and that is an improvement right there. |
For those who prefer a video presentation...
Here is a show from Dr. Oz. It is greatly simplified, but does the basics well:
4 parts. http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/know-...tty-acids-pt-1 At the bottom of each page is a link to the next 3 parts. |
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The krill oil is supposed to be more absorbed, so less is more.
I take 2 of them a day. I had my blood work done, and it was exactly the same as before with 2 fish oils. Two a day with food is a good start. You can always increase if you feel the need later. I get 90 for about $12.99 (with 5.00 coupon) at Costco. So I buy ahead, during the coupon sales. Some places really charge high prices for this, so shop around! MegaRed is the one I use. |
Can you share what the best brand/type/dose of omega 3 is cause I want to change and see if I feel any difference? Possibly one that I can get both the benefits of fish and flax. Thank you.
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New amazing EFA product:
Now you can fortify any food you want with EFAs
http://newhope360.com/news/nordic-na...mega-3-fortify Available at most outlets...Amazon and Vitacost are just two common sources. This is a dry powder with no fishy taste that can be mixed into any food you want, to fortify EFA content. Pretty nifty idea IMO. |
How DHA works in the brain:
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Here are some quick notes about my experiences with EFAs as a vegan.
Flaxseed oil - personally caused me quite nasty breast pain, and had no other effects. It took me two months to figure this out, and then I had a Google and discovered that while it's a rare side effect, I'm not the only one who's had it. I wouldn't say that you need to avoid flaxseed oil for this reason, just bear it in mind if you notice that you are getting (increased) breast pain. The usual objection to flaxseed oil is that not much of it gets converted to Omega 3s in the body, so that it's easy to think that you're getting a much higher dose than you really are. Evening primrose oil, borage oil - tried various doses, didn't notice an effect either way. Echium seed oil - sold as Echiomega, made by Igennus http://shop.igennus.com/Echiomega.html It contains 162mg ALA and 72mg SDA per capsule. SDA is a precursor to EPA, so again, you get less of the actual Omega 3. There's no DHA. Igennus have something against DHA for some reason, they remove it from their fish oil. The only effect I noticed was that my periods were shorter and lighter, which was welcome as I have a copper IUD. Apparently this is a reasonably common effect with Omega 3 oils. I think I'm getting the same effect on algae oil. Algae oil - originally tried V-Pure http://www.nuique.com/omega3/, which contains 200mg DHA and 50mg EPA per capsule, but have now moved onto Opti3 http://opti3omega.com/indexd.html, which contains 200mg DHA, 100mg EPA, and 100iu vegan Vitamin D3 per capsule. The people who make Opti3 also make Vitashine vegan Vitamin D3 http://vitashine-d3.com/. I've just bumped up the dose of Opti3 to three capsules a day, and I think it's helping my eyes to be less dry. Hard to tell, really. The V-Pure had a fishy smell which I suspect could indicate rancidity, but the Opti3 doesn't smell of anything at all. Also it's a bit cheaper. I've just quickly looked up some fish oils, and it seems that the ratio of EPA to DHA is markedly different. Fish oils have much more EPA, algae oils have more DHA. Fish oils are a lot cheaper, of course, but may not be acceptable for veggies like me, people with fish allergies, or people who are concerned about heavy metal toxicity (not that I've really bothered to get to the bottom of the heavy metal business, since I've not eaten fish since I was three). |
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