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10-07-2007, 11:21 AM | #21 | |||
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I went to a medical seminar on Friday, and some new data was brought up
on the new substitute fats that some food manufacturers are using instead of transfats. These newer fats are called interesterfied fats, and are now in cookies,cakes, donuts, some peanut butters. Here is an article: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0116131545.htm These fats were shown in humans to raise blood sugar by 20%. So read labels carefully. Also the recommended adult amount of transfat now is 2 grams a day. Labels that say Zero Transfats can do that if the transfat content of the product is below .5gm /serving. They are allowed to round down. So if labels say partially hydrogenated oils are in the product, and the label itself says 0 transfats, you may be getting some. This is esp important for kids, who are smaller and who will be affected more by the transfat. another link: http://www.stop-trans-fat.com/interesterified-fat.html
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10-21-2007, 12:40 PM | #22 | |||
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Just found this in my grocery store:
http://www.bluebunny.com/ProductDeta...&productId=625 Gluten free, has 4 probiotic organisms in it, and 300mg of alpha linolenic acid from flax oil! A neat way to get EFAs into kids too!
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11-12-2007, 10:00 AM | #23 | ||
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I came across a brief description of this article and searched down the abstract (below). I thought it was fascinating and maybe some are interested.
Vol. 298 No. 12, September 26, 2007 JAMA Omega-3 Polyunsaturated Fatty Acid Intake and Islet Autoimmunity in Children at Increased Risk for Type 1 Diabetes Jill M. Norris, MPH, PhD; Xiang Yin, MD, MS; Molly M. Lamb, BA; Katherine Barriga, MSPH; Jennifer Seifert, BS; Michelle Hoffman, RN; Heather D. Orton, MS; Anna E. Barón, PhD; Michael Clare-Salzler, MD; H. Peter Chase, MD; Nancy J. Szabo, PhD; Henry Erlich, MD, PhD; George S. Eisenbarth, MD, PhD; Marian Rewers, MD, PhD JAMA. 2007;298:1420-1428. Context Cod liver oil supplements in infancy have been associated with a decreased risk of type 1 diabetes mellitus in a retrospective study. Objective To examine whether intakes of omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids are associated with the development of islet autoimmunity (IA) in children. Design, Setting, and Participants A longitudinal, observational study, the Diabetes Autoimmunity Study in the Young (DAISY), conducted in Denver, Colorado, between January 1994 and November 2006, of 1770 children at increased risk for type 1 diabetes, defined as either possession of a high diabetes risk HLA genotype or having a sibling or parent with type 1 diabetes. The mean age at follow-up was 6.2 years. Islet autoimmunity was assessed in association with reported dietary intake of polyunsaturated fatty acids starting at age 1 year. A case-cohort study (N = 244) was also conducted in which risk of IA by polyunsaturated fatty acid content of erythrocyte membranes (as a percentage of total lipids) was examined. Main Outcome Measure Risk of IA, defined as being positive for insulin, glutamic acid decarboxylase, or insulinoma-associated antigen-2 autoantibodies on 2 consecutive visits and still autoantibody positive or having diabetes at last follow-up visit. Results Fifty-eight children developed IA. Adjusting for HLA genotype, family history of type 1 diabetes, caloric intake, and omega-6 fatty acid intake, omega-3 fatty acid intake was inversely associated with risk of IA (hazard ratio [HR], 0.45; 95% confidence interval [CI], 0.21-0.96; P = .04). The association was strengthened when the definition of the outcome was limited to those positive for 2 or more autoantibodies (HR, 0.23; 95% CI, 0.09-0.58; P = .002). In the case-cohort study, omega-3 fatty acid content of erythrocyte membranes was also inversely associated with IA risk (HR, 0.63; 95% CI, 0.41-0.96; P = .03). Conclusion Dietary intake of omega-3 fatty acids is associated with reduced risk of IA in children at increased genetic risk for type 1 diabetes. Author Affiliations: Department of Preventive Medicine and Biometrics, University of Colorado at Denver and Health Sciences Center, Denver (Drs Norris, Yin, and Barón, and Mss Lamb, Seifert, and Orton); The Barbara Davis Center for Childhood Diabetes, University of Colorado at Denver and Health Sciences Center, Aurora (Drs Chase, Eisenbarth, and Rewers, and Mss Barriga and Hoffman); Department of Pathology, Immunology, and Laboratory Medicine (Dr Clare-Salzler) and Analytical Toxicology Core Laboratory (Dr Szabo), University of Florida, Gainesville; and Department of Human Genetics, Roche Molecular Systems, Alameda, California (Dr Erlich). |
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11-13-2007, 02:13 PM | #24 | ||
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My apologies if this has already been posted here. Just received this in a newsletter from NOW:
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11-14-2007, 05:02 AM | #25 | ||
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Hello mrsd,
Thank you for starting this thread. I decided to respond here to your comment about EFA in the other thread, Errors in Pathology..., to keep it all together. Quote:
The results, from ARL Pathology in Melbourne, are presented as % of total and ratios, rather than absolute quantities. Here is a link for an example of their reports: http://www.arlaus.com.au/Sample/EFA%20Plasma.pdf Unfortunately, ARL has the usual policy of refusing to communicate with patients, so I have not been able to discuss my report with them; they ignored my Email request for some technical information. They do have useful general information on their web site. This is a link to their article on EFA: http://www.arlaus.com.au/clinical_gu...FA%20Guide.pdf Some of my EFA levels were so abnormal that we repeated the test on new samples a few weeks later. The results were almost identical, giving me more confidence that ARL could at least repeat their tests. The Summary showed that:
Perhaps this might explain my revulsion for fatty food: Quote:
The detailed section of the report for the n6 acids shows:
The detailed section of the report for the n3 acids shows:
As you said, males only covert a few % of ALA to DHA. The most likely explanation for my DHA deficiency is conversion fault, rather than inadequate ALA intake. Rather than immediately commence EPA and DHA supplements, I have decided to see if it really is a conversion problem. Here is my three-step plan: 1. Walnut Therapy For the past four weeks I have been adding six walnuts (12 halves) per day to my food intake. This is the amount recommended by experts to increase ALA to normal levels. I will have my EFA checked again in another two weeks. I expect to see an increase in both LA and ALA. In fact, my LA should come up to normal because walnuts contain large amounts of LA as well as ALA. I also expect to see ALA increase above the normal range. Whether or not there is sufficient conversion to push EPA and DHA up into the normal range is unknown. I also expect to see my LDL to decrease and HDL to increase, further reducing cardiac risk. 2. Linseed Therapy (you might call it Flaxseed) If walnut therapy fails to improve DHA, then I will add a tablespoon of ground linseeds (flaxseeds) to my breakfast cereal each day. That should definitely push my ALA way above normal, although my body will presumably be able to regulate it to some extent. Once again, there is no certainty that it will be converted to DHA. 3. DHA Supplements If walnut and linseed therapy fails to increase DHA and EPA to acceptable levels, I have no option but to take supplements. This is not so easy for vegetarians or vegans because most of the available supplements are derived from oily fish (yuk!). Another problem with most supplements, affecting carnivores as well, is the risk of heavy-metal poisoning. So, I will leave it to others to eat their mercury flavoured juice squeezed from bodies of oily fish! Fortunately, there are now non-animal DHA/EPA supplements commercially available. I imported a three-month supply of "V-Pure" DHA/EPA vegan capsules from Switzerland; they arrived very promptly. These contain oil from farmed algae, and are claimed to be free of heavy metals. You can find the suppler at this link: http://www.water4.net/index.htm I cannot comment on the effectiveness of the V-Pure product because I am still in the "Walnut Therapy" stage of investigation. I expect the capsules to push my DHA and EPA levels well into the normal range. I will let you know the results. Paul |
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11-14-2007, 07:32 AM | #26 | |||
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Since you are eating some ALA... and LA but are not converting you have some options.
1) start using a source of GLA (this is an intermediate step in conversion). This is a vegetarian product, either evening primrose or borage oil. 2) You can buy vegetarian DHA... it is common in the states. I don't know what it is called in Britain. Ours is made by the Martek company predominately, but there are others. It is extracted from algae grown in tanks. One brand is Neuromins, another targeting women is Expecta. However if you choose this you won't be getting EPA from that source. EPA is important and acts as a brake to AA synthesis. Excess AA can cause heart attacks/stroke. I don't know of a vegan source for EPA in USA...I think it has to come from fish or you. It is possible you may convert ALA better if you take a GLA supplement like I mentioned above. Your link to the new supplement is interesting, but rather low in EPA. It is the first EPA I have seen, grown from algae. We do not have it here in USA yet. Our algae products only have DHA in them so far. And just so you know, the processing of fish into fish oil, removes heavy metals. So you are not likely to find mercury in fish oil capsules. There is a laboratory that tests... www.consumerlab.com for the fish oil: http://www.consumerlab.com/results/omega3.asp The process of distillation removes heavy metals. Fish body oils are much safer to use than cod liver oils in general. Liver derived oils have other problems associated with them. (as an aside--- there is a movement in the anthropology field, that suggests that humans evolved along coastlines where there was an abundance of fish. Humans have a huge need for DHA in the brain, we have the highest ratio of any land mammal, and so fish provided that and enabled brain evolution).
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11-14-2007, 07:45 AM | #27 | |||
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for the very interesting and useful article on EFAs/diabetes!
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11-15-2007, 01:34 PM | #28 | ||
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I know I keep asking this but when I read about fish oil pill supplements it said it can contribute to bleading. Is it still safe and good to take 1200mg a day?Its one pill. Or is it safer the ground flax seed?Linseeds are a type of flaxseed or just another name? Please let us know the results and also any changes you feel in your body. Thank you.
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11-15-2007, 02:22 PM | #29 | |||
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for increasing bleeding.
This is a very small effect, but may combine in people who are 1) low in platelets (a genetic problem) 2) take warfarin (Coumadin) for medical reasons 3) are given Heparin in the hospital 4) take high dose aspirin Fish oil has EPA in it, which is an anti-inflammatory and suppresses Cox-2 cytokines. The Cox-2 include thromoxane which is a clotting stimulant. Because this is all dietary the effects are mild, and only a concern when people are doing strong drugs that artificially affect bleeding as well. By itself, fish oil is homeostatic, meaning prevents blood clots. (which is a good thing). Massive dosing...like 13-20 grams a day should be monitored by a doctor. Some severe autoimmune disease is treated with massive amounts of fish oil...but not commonly.
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11-15-2007, 03:26 PM | #30 | ||
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Thanks Mrs.D but I'm slow. So is 1200mg ok for me and I should not have problems only benefit? Is the flaxseed also as good of an alternative?
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