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mrsD · 12-24-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitt

Mrs. D., Do you know anything about Lions Mane Supplement which is some kind of mushroom thing and for the brain? I'm just asking and not for me. Someone brought this up in another site. Thank you.

I personally don't know...but I looked around for you:

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Phytother Res. 2008 Oct 10. [Epub ahead of print]Click here to read Links
Improving effects of the mushroom Yamabushitake (Hericium erinaceus) on mild cognitive impairment: a double-blind placebo-controlled clinical trial.
Mori K, Inatomi S, Ouchi K, Azumi Y, Tuchida T.

Mushroom Laboratory, Hokuto Corporation, 800-8, Shimokomazawa, Nagano, 381-0008, Japan.

A double-blind, parallel-group, placebo-controlled trial was performed on 50- to 80-year-old Japanese men and women diagnosed with mild cognitive impairment in order to examine the efficacy of oral administration of Yamabushitake (Hericium erinaceus), an edible mushroom, for improving cognitive impairment, using a cognitive function scale based on the Revised Hasegawa Dementia Scale (HDS-R). After 2 weeks of preliminary examination, 30 subjects were randomized into two 15-person groups, one of which was given Yamabushitake and the other given a placebo. The subjects of the Yamabushitake group took four 250 mg tablets containing 96% of Yamabushitake dry powder three times a day for 16 weeks. After termination of the intake, the subjects were observed for the next 4 weeks. At weeks 8, 12 and 16 of the trial, the Yamabushitake group showed significantly increased scores on the cognitive function scale compared with the placebo group. The Yamabushitake group's scores increased with the duration of intake, but at week 4 after the termination of the 16 weeks intake, the scores decreased significantly. Laboratory tests showed no adverse effect of Yamabushitake. The results obtained in this study suggest that Yamabushitake is effective in improving mild cognitive impairment. Copyright (c) 2008 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.

PMID: 18844328 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

also this:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum

on cholesterol:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum

I find this last one interesting.

I don't see any harm in trying it at this time.
It would depend on what was going on to need improvement.
Increasing cells(growth factor) is somewhat different than enabling specific functions.

There are many papers on PubMed using this keyword:
Hericium erinaceus

Kitt · 12-24-2008, 04:37 PM

Thanks much. That's kind of what I found. I, myself, am not interested in it. Someone else was trying it and I really do not know why. Personally, I think they are trying everything and really do not know what they are doing. Thanks again.

bruegger84 · 12-24-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitt

Thanks much. That's kind of what I found. I, myself, am not interested in it. Someone else was trying it and I really do not know why. Personally, I think they are trying everything and really do not know what they are doing. Thanks again.

I think the mushroom thing might be cordyceps.

You can take ALC alone, it might not be as effective. I take the R-Lipoic acid, and i know that the neuro-optimizer might be good, but you have to take like 4 capsules what's with that?

bruegger84 · 12-25-2008, 09:14 PM

and also what is dr. sahelian's info?
is that the daniel amen doctor for change your brain change your life

mrsD · 12-26-2008, 03:50 AM

http://www.raysahelian.com/
He sells stuff tho. I typically read his comments about supplements, and he often puts up studies which are useful.
But he is not my first and only source of information.

He is not Dr. Amen.
Dr. Amen is a psychiatrist who specializes in Brain imaging.
He uses supplements at times for treatment of mental illness, but is not primarily a supplement specialist or expert. (he started out as a specialist in ADHD and Bipolar).

MindshareHealth · 12-26-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsD

If you have alot of anxiety I'd also recommend inositol. This is very effective for this problem. Start at 500mg a day for a week and increase by 500mg a day up to about 1-3 gram.
You don't need the very high doses typically. 500mg a day may do it for you. Inositol combined with the taurine you take already, is very good for insulin sensitizing issues.

Mixtures really look good on paper, but it is rare to find one that is really effective for all the listed ingredients... Notice you must take 4 capsules to get what is listed on that label...

Also depression often responds to l-tryptophan, + some B6.
Tryptophan at night on an empty stomach 500mg will support synthesis of serotonin (and hence melatonin). L-tryptophan has now become available again.

Thanks mrsD, you really know a lot about supplements!

I've been thinking about trying Inositol and will probably order some this week.

FYI re: NeuroOptimizer, I only take 2 and feel a big difference.

re: Tryptophan - be very careful - if you are taking anti-depressants you should probably not take it. There is the possibility of Seratonin sydrome, especially if you take it along with SSRIs. In fact my Lexapro has a warning specifically about Tryptophan.

If I was NOT taking any depression meds however, I would definitely give
L-tryptophan or 5HTP a try before getting on meds.

mrsD · 12-27-2008, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MindshareHealth

Thanks mrsD, you really know a lot about supplements!

I've been thinking about trying Inositol and will probably order some this week.

FYI re: NeuroOptimizer, I only take 2 and feel a big difference.

re: Tryptophan - be very careful - if you are taking anti-depressants you should probably not take it. There is the possibility of Seratonin sydrome, especially if you take it along with SSRIs. In fact my Lexapro has a warning specifically about Tryptophan.

If I was NOT taking any depression meds however, I would definitely give
L-tryptophan or 5HTP a try before getting on meds.

The warnings about SSRIs and tryptophan are slowly changing.
The blanket warnings for the general population remain in place, because SSRIs are serious drugs and should be used with caution. But some doctors (esp in Europe) are using l-tryptophan with antidepressants now to reduce doses of the drugs. This is done with medical supervision.

Some people with mild to moderate depression can avoid use of SSRIs altogether with proper attention to nutrients that work in the brain. Folic acid, and DHA (a fatty acid) and l-typtophan, B6 etc may not even need an SSRI.

alwayslooking · 01-08-2009, 05:28 PM

Just an update for anyone that cares - i've been taking focus fast for the last several days, and it's definitely helping keeping me more alert and concentrated on certain tasks... they actually lowered their price so thats why i bought it, lol (49.99)... no way was i paying more.

alwayslooking · 01-16-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsD

The warnings about SSRIs and tryptophan are slowly changing.
The blanket warnings for the general population remain in place, because SSRIs are serious drugs and should be used with caution. But some doctors (esp in Europe) are using l-tryptophan with antidepressants now to reduce doses of the drugs. This is done with medical supervision.

Some people with mild to moderate depression can avoid use of SSRIs altogether with proper attention to nutrients that work in the brain. Folic acid, and DHA (a fatty acid) and l-typtophan, B6 etc may not even need an SSRI.

my doctor always advised against combining meds and supplements together because there is hardly any research (plus they want to cover their asses, lol)

Kitt · 01-17-2009, 10:24 AM

Here is a good site on the subject. Just click on it. http://www.nccam.nih.gov/health/bottle/

The FDA regulates supplements as a food rather than a drug. The manufacturer does not have to prove that they are effective, or safe or the quality of them. And you better know what drugs you are also taking if you take supplements.

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