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Old 12-10-2008, 07:16 PM #1
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ne1 no of any good brain suppliments?
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choline is good for the brain, so is vit b12. jarrow formulas makes a cdp choline, and natural factors makes a phosphatidyl choline.

omega 3 fish oil obviously.
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choline is good for the brain, so is vit b12. jarrow formulas makes a cdp choline, and natural factors makes a phosphatidyl choline.

omega 3 fish oil obviously.
a product called focus fast has all those ingredients, i may try that...
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a product called focus fast has all those ingredients, i may try that...
i was just looking at that, some questionable ingredients including vinpocetine.
and if you're taking any pharmaceuticals like SSRIs. st johns wort or 5-HTP could interact with that.

here's the link so people can check it out.

http://www.focusfast.com/info.php
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Lightbulb products like that

with LONG lists of ingredients typically provide very low subnormal amounts of the listed ingredients which provide
little support or help.

The only thing missing from that ingredient list is the "kitchen sink".

Vague questions like "brain supplements" are basically
not specific to the problem.

You have to KNOW what you want to accomplish, and avoid
shot-gun huge supplements like this with very little and poor accountability and who charge you ALOT of money.

Never choose a supplement that has huge lists with lots of ingredients, and those ingredients and not detailed as to content/ AMOUNT. When lumped together this way, the supplier can put whatever they want in that mixture. For example, acetyl-carnitine is an expensive item...how much is really in this product? That appears to be a "secret".

The only things listed properly are the vitamins. And for what they charge for this product--- you are vastly overpaying!
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ne1 no of any good brain suppliments?
Depends on what the brain problem is. If the brain problem is actually due to disturbed sleep, then that is hat should be addressed. Different things are good for attentional problems, etc. also, age matters. Also, hormone levels matter and whether or not you need thyroid or adrenal support.

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with LONG lists of ingredients typically provide very low subnormal amounts of the listed ingredients which provide
little support or help.

The only thing missing from that ingredient list is the "kitchen sink".

Vague questions like "brain supplements" are basically
not specific to the problem.

You have to KNOW what you want to accomplish, and avoid
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Never choose a supplement that has huge lists with lots of ingredients, and those ingredients and not detailed as to content/ AMOUNT. When lumped together this way, the supplier can put whatever they want in that mixture. For example, acetyl-carnitine is an expensive item...how much is really in this product? That appears to be a "secret".

The only things listed properly are the vitamins. And for what they charge for this product--- you are vastly overpaying!

I agree with mrs. D she's right about long list of ingredients being shotty, cause i always look on iherb and see plenty of these items/supplements with long lists of ingredients. surprisingly source naturals-a trusted brand, makes most of these concoctions, and I'm starting to be weary of them. another thing I looked into which seems to be a good product for circulation is vinpocetine or whatever it's called, I have to look this product up cause I'm not sure of the dangers of it and haven't heard of it before?? any info would be cool.

and most of these items with big lists of ingredients have ginormous pills size, and you end up having to take like 5-6 pills a day which no one has the time to do anyways. At most for me I usually only take supplements with small amounts of ingredients and ones that i don't have to end up taking more than 3 times daily.

The brand I've been into lately has been natural factors, it has many types of supplements of good quality coming from canada, or are canadian made. jarrow and now products makes some good products as well.

I don't endorse these products, but I'm just a regular guy telling you that these products worked well for me.
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Lightbulb vinpocetine

increases bleeding. For people using SSRI drugs...like Lexapro
which also increase bleeding you should consult your doctor
before using.
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increases bleeding. For people using SSRI drugs...like Lexapro
which also increase bleeding you should consult your doctor
before using.
also found this excerpt from wikipedia:

Vinpocetine is also a phosphodiesterase (PDE) type-1 inhibitor,[9] (with an IC50 of approximately 10-5 M.) leading to increases in intracellular levels of cyclic guanosine 3'5'-monophosphate (cGMP), an action that has been attributed to the vasorelaxant effects of vinpocetine on cerebral smooth muscle tissue.[10][11]

Increases in neuronal levels of DOPAC, a metabolic breakdown product of dopamine, have been shown to occur in striatal isolated nerve endings as a result of exposure to vinpocetine.[12] Such an effect is consistent with the biogenic pharmacology of reserpine, a structural relative of vinpocetine, which depletes catecholamine levels and may cause depression as a side-effect of the cardiovascular and anti-psychotic effects.[13]

Side-effects

Vinpocetine has been implicated in one case to induce agranulocytosis,[14] a condition in which granulocytyes - an important type of white blood cell, are markedly decreased. Some people have anecdotally noted that their continued use of vinpocetine reduces immune function. Commission E warned that vinpocetine reduced immune function and could cause apoptosis in the long term. [15]

Dosage

It is recommended that first-time users ingest only 2-5 mg of vinpocetine with meals to make sure they are not hypersensitive to it. Users may then increase the dosage to 10-40 mg a day (which may, although very rarely, cause some light side-effects).
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no one of respectability has taken this, or no one has anything good to say about this supplement online, so i think i'll pass for now. people on erowid used it for a test. another supplement I am interested in is huperzine A, which seems to have a bunch of side effects listed on wikipedia which leads me to not considering taking it.
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