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03-19-2009, 09:21 PM | #1 | |||
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Hi and welcome
my son had a similar problem tho he was taking 5HTP (5 hydroxy tryptophan) rather than L tryptophan he had used the 5HTP for a number of years to help with his OCD related to Tourette Syndrome and it really helped him! however, he found it eventually started making him feel edgy, restless and "wired" so stopped he now uses Inositol instead and finds it much better with no side effects. he needs quite a high dose (12 gm) but is very pleased with the results. It is usually recommended to take vitB6 with it (as also recommended with tryptophan and 5HTP)
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03-19-2009, 10:06 PM | #2 | ||
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I never took B6 with the tryptophan - could that have been part of the problem? |
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03-19-2009, 11:08 PM | #3 | |||
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my son takes his inositol 3x day. He is adult and "maintains" at around 12 gm per day, going up to the max dose of 16 grams a day when needed. he takes it primarily for OCD/anxiety/depression he also takes Natural Calm at night (an ionic form of magnesium citrate) that is very relaxing Epsom Salts baths are another way to achieve relaxation and promote restful sleep the P-5-P form of vitB6 is IMO the best kind my son also has found that taking vitamin B12 in the METHYLcobalamin form is essential for him too lack of B6 while taking the tryptophan may have caused your reaction but hopefully someone with more knowledge than me on this will be able to give a more qualified opinion on that
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03-20-2009, 01:18 AM | #4 | |||
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Things to try:
1) If you are low in B12, then you are not making melatonin from serotonin. No melatonin = no or poor sleep So you can get tested to see what your B12 levels are. Or you can decide to take it anyway. 1mg (1000mcg) of methylcobalamin daily on an empty stomach may improve sleep 2) people vary in responses to amino acids taken separately. You can try taking the tryptophan every other day, or every 3 rd day etc to mimic natural ingestion from foods. Genetically there are amino acid disorders, but they are not common. Stimulating the synthesis of serotonin is helpful to a point, but there is always the chance of causing a surplus. Unfortunately we do not have a window or dipstick to measure people to see exactly what each needs. When you are doing something like this and run into side effects, then you have to step back and see what changes you may need to make in what you are taking. Is tryptophan the ONLY thing you supplement with? Do you take other drugs for other things? Remember, the goal of using supplements wisely is to restore a balance that is skewed. They are not like DRUGS, which create effects of their own.
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03-20-2009, 07:52 AM | #5 | ||
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I'll try some B12 as well - seems like B vitamins play an important role - I had no idea. I don't take any other drugs or supplements other than a few vitamins in teh morning - a multivitamin, fish oil, and I've started taking magnesium. I do take 2 ibuprofen tablets at night to help me drop off to sleep.
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03-20-2009, 09:40 AM | #6 | |||
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Ibuprofen may deplete melatonin levels (if used chronically)
It also depletes folic acid. So taking a B-50 daily in the morning may help. B12 will also help. Tryptophan does not enter the blood brain barrier when other amino acids are plentiful. There is a competition for it at the membrane level. Most of the serotonin in your body--over 90% is not in the brain at all. So taking it on an empty stomach may give more brain activity. This is a link to the pathways that tryptophan can take. http://www.genome.jp/kegg/pathway/map/map00380.html It is rather humbling I think. Each rectangle with a number is an enzyme that performs a certain job. Here is the wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryptophan Notice: Quote:
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03-20-2009, 09:48 AM | #7 | ||
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That's interesting - I'm lactose intolerant... thank you much for the info.
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