I'm a pretty light sleeper, and go through phases of waking after dreaming. THis is usually after 3 hours, then five hours, or sometimes on and off every hour or so, if it's particularly bad.
Normally it's not that bad, as I get back to sleep again, but if I'm going through an insomniac phase, which I get for a couple of months every year or so, I find it really difficult getting back to sleep, and end up sleep deprived.
Of course, a lot of the supps used for aiding sleep (inositol, B-vits, H5tp), only seem to cause me to dream more vividly, thus, waking me after them.
I wonder if anyone knows of food or supps that actually suppress dreaming, or, rather, the vividness of the dreams.

Thanks.

I agree with you that some supplements can increase your dreaming or making your dreams more vivid. I disagree with you, however, that your dreaming is responsible for waking you up. I think you wake up and remember the last dream you had and associate these two things together. But how much you dream or don't dream is not the reason you are a light sleeper.

You are a light sleeper and that is the problem that I think you should try to correct. Histadelics are known for being light sleepers. This is one possible reason why you are a light sleeper and this can be corrected with the right nutritional supplements. Of course there could be some other health issues that may explain why you are a light sleeper, like hyperthyroidism, for example.

I would suggest that you consider the cause of why you are a light sleeper rather than trying to suppress the dreams you think may be waking you up. Vitamin b6 is the main nutrient for dreaming and dream recall. There are drugs that will deplete you of b6 which I would not recommend you consider. I don't know of any nutritional supplements that would suppress your dreams for you.

This site mentions the signs of high histamine levels. If you had high histamine levels and corrected them with the right nutrients then you probably would have some other symptoms / problems disappear too. If you have maybe 5 of these symptoms than you are most likely a high histamine type (you won't have all of the symptoms listed).

http://www.nutri-ception.co.uk/offic...df/NCF0602.pdf

Thanks for that.
I'd never heard of high histamine levels affecting such things as sleep.
I've been trying to sort my sleep out for a long time. Also, I'm a pretty easily stressed person, and have been for the last 4 years or so (death of a parent, birth of a child, long-term sickness of other parent). It's taken it out of me, and now I'm starting to pay, phisically. I've had ulcers, some high blood pressure, a bizarre blister on my macula (which is stress related, apparently), I get bouts of terminal insomnia (as mentioned).
I went to a nutritionalist, who tried B vits, choline, inostol, and magnesium (among other things).
The magnesium was the thing that I most pinned my hopes on, as I seemed to have a lot of symptoms of excess cortisol.
But that said, I still wake up at nights (pretty much every night), and I still find myself easilly stressed and anxious.
I'm interested in seeing more on high histamines.
Out of the list I can get 7 definates and another 5 possibles.
Trouble is, I looked it up on Wikipedia, and I also have some of the symptoms they describe for low histamines. Hmmm, now I'm confused. Can it be tested for?

When a person does not enter all the way down to stage 4 but
only enters the lighter stages, then REM is accessed more often.

Age will do it..the elderly do not sleep deeply as rule. Small babies and children do.

I would consider a sleep study.
Here is an article that describes the stages:
http://web.umr.edu/~psyworld/sleep_stages.htm

High dose B12 (1 milligram/day) may help. This helped me alot during
menopause. The issue with your eye, suggests you may have elevated
homocysteine...and that you can have a blood test for at the doctor's.
Elevated homocysteine affects blood vessels negatively. You will want to
clear that up as elevated homocysteine can lead to heart attacks and stroke.

I would like to add...that some people find eating a high carbohydrate meal near bedtime
or a snack of candy releases serotonin and hence improves sleep.
High protein meals tend to energize and should be avoided late in the day, if you are
sensitive to them.

Some people can find it confusing to figure out which one they are. A simple test you may try is to buy some niacin 50 mg. (nicotinic acid niacin which causes the flushing). If you flush from only 50 mg. of niacin then you are a high histamine type. You can try some aspirin or some amylase or calcium to counter the flushing which you may find uncomfortable. (You will probably never use that 50 mg. nicotinic acid supplement again since you sound like a histadelic, so you might consider the blood test option.)

You can also ask your doctor to do whole blood histamine levels. This blood level may not change when do supplement the right nutrients even though you feel the difference. So this blood test is not good to try as a follow up but good to use in the beginning (and even if you have started to supplement some of those nutrients).

But you are right about magnesium. Histadelics need magnesium, calcium and methionine to lower histamine levels. Some people will actually find that SAMe works better in the beginning. (SAMe contains methionine and seems to work better than methionine at least in the beginning.) I don't recommend that you do this yourself without getting some help from a professional. You might try the test and some supplements, but you should really get a nutritionally oriented doctor to help you going forward. Otherwise you could end up with some other deficiencies or excesses.

Histadelics need to avoid folic acid and nicotinic acid. (Folic acid may make you feel depressed or weird.) You should supplement niacinamide though. So taking a multi-vitamin or a b-complex is not recommended at least not until you get your histamine levels balanced. Unfortunately no company makes a multi-vitamin product for histadelics to use.

I am not surprised that you have high blood pressure and ulcers. Histadelics tend to produce too much stomach acid and do need magnesium supplements because they are hyperactive usually. You could also be prone to diabetes at some point because you need sulfur. Sulfur is used by the body to make insulin. Methionine is a sulfur containing amino acid.

Balancing your histamine levels will likely insure that your homocysteine levels don't get too high. Your body gets rid of histamine through methylation (and sulfation). When methylation is faulty you can develop lots of problems. When sulfation is not working you can develop problems with sulfites building up in your body which you may not have a problem with until you take some sulfa drugs.

I don't think a nutritionist will understand this concept since it is mainly treated by an orthomolecular approach. Finding someone with this kind of training can be difficult, but may be possible.

If you want to ask more questions, feel free to PM if that is easier for you.