lol don't tell me that Caroline. I'm a B too.

It is for some people.

Huge percentage of vegetarians in India and other countries in Asia, as well as Israel, the UK. There are so many reasons people are vegetarian besides being related to their heart health or general health. Those people aren't messed up.

btw I don't eat any gelatin products either. It is in so much. I can't eat much that isn't off a tree or out of the ground because they put animal gelatin in almost everything. Even in the old cherry ripes.

Things will change for the better for the sake of our planet. I was just reading an article about how they're going to feed beef cattle on seaweeds to try to cut green house emissions. Geez, why not just stop breeding beef cattle.

Research into seaweed impact in reducing livestock methane takes scientists to Eureka award finals - ABC News

Cows fed small amount of seaweed burp 86 per cent less methane in trial - ABC News

Look at those beautiful faces.

btw I forgot to mention that Cows are herbivores. The only food chain cows are in is grass, cows, humans isn't it? They don't kill other creatures on purpose. The only time they would consume another creature would be accidental like insects in their grass.

Anyway, thanks for conversation.

I really trust Dr. David Brownstein and just looked up his "take" on going vegetarian. Good info and he says ,many suffer from low protein and fats, hence fatigue and muscle aches.

Just a moment...

Personally, I think it's all about education.

You can't just buy some lettuce and tomatoes and say you're going to eat a vegetarian diet. Of course you'll not do well. People are pretty smart though. Especially the younger generations. I wasn't that smart about diet when I was in my 20s.

The Peripheral Neuropathy forum has dozens and dozens of posts by people who decided to cut out certain foods from their diets and follow plant based diet and have had a lot of success sometimes. Everyone is individual. I keep it to myself in my life away from the internet here. I don't go around trying to convert people or suggesting they're getting ill because they eat animals. I'm not extremist. I eat mostly plant based because of my health.

I'd prefer to read about what is good to eat and what is balanced to eat for optimum health and make up my own mind.

I'd much rather eat healthy food than supplements to get to that end.

Here is an excellent link. I see it as balanced and good information for anyone learning about protein.

Protein | The Nutrition Source | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Harvard - T. H. Chan School of Public Health
The Nutrition Source

–What is protein?
–How much protein do I need?
–It’s all about the protein “package”
–Research on protein and human health
–Protein foods and the planet
–The bottom line: choosing healthy protein foods

It's nice to see that the site doesn't endorse specific products as well!

If I could get all I feel my body needs from all foods, that is great but as I've gotten older and started supplementing in my 50's....this works in my life and all of friends in my life and my grandkids are supplementing already, they are always on the run and not getting the best for their bodies. They are smart.

Oh, I take supplements. I guess that makes me "smart" too.

I said "I'd much rather eat healthy food than supplements to get to that end".

I don't know what would happen if I didn't have my b12 for just one example, but I prefer to eat properly so that I don't have to buy dozens of supplements. That's where education comes in.

Supplements here are extremely expensive. I take it that they're not so expensive in the US of A?

I often wonder if you ever read the information, such as the one in that last link I posted re Protein ? It's very well balanced.