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Old 11-25-2006, 10:16 AM #1
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Exclamation GARDASIL VACCINE NOT PROVEN SAFE for young girls

very interesting article on the HPV vaccine from Merck and what it has not been upfront about with regard to the safety issues of giving this to young girls.........

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Nobody at Merck, the CDC or FDA know if the injection of Gardasil into all pre-teen girls - especially simultaneously with hepatitis B vaccine - will make some of them more likely to develop arthritis or other inflammatory autoimmune and brain disorders as teenagers and adults.
here is the full article

http://www.inciid.org/article.php?cat=cancer&id=433

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Old 11-25-2006, 12:00 PM #2
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oh my goodness chemar! thank you soooo much for posting this. our dr has mentioned for lil'monkey to have it on her check up next month. i emailed him the link to the article.
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Gardasil is one HUGE political hot potato here in Australia this month.

e.g. How's this for a headline on a govt. website ...
Australian Government Funding Of Gardasil® 15 November 2006



[p.s. just a note about giving it with hep B vaccine... The directions for giving Gardasil specifically state that they can be given at the same _time_, but must be given in separate areas of the body... not together in the one site. Not that it's any reassurance at present. ]
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Unhappy Oh, Blech....

another vaccine nightmare (like LymeRix)

http://www.fda.gov/OHRMS/DOCKETS/ac/.../3680b2_17.pdf

Thanks for posting, Chemar!

That commercial on TV will sway many women to get the vaccine, and
I bet few if any research it first. Most don't!
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My autoimmune problems started after getting a flu shot... so it's quite easy for me to believe that other vaccines can do the same thing.
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Thanks for the post! I was planning to pass on this for my daughter, but now I will do so with even more reason.

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Default Hi, Cara...

I'd suggest you wait 2 yrs... and by then all the crap will fall out if it is there to fall out. (until then, really stress and explain why to your daughter--use a condom!). The more partners, the higher the risk of HPV... which is epidemic right now. If women are conservative, careful, the risk is less for HPV.

Merck is really banking (literally) on this vaccine...for the reasons, legal, financial concerning Vioxx costs. (they have 30,000 lawsuits still pending).

Most of the bad news for LymeRix came out fairly quickly. Also certain genotypes seem to be affected. Check the LymeRix link, as the genotype that reacts autoimmune is listed there. HLA-DR4...not sure if that is the same genotype for this vaccine however.
Those people with that marker are more likely to react I would expect.

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First, some history. The new vaccine, known as Gardasil, was approved earlier this month by the Food and Drug Administration, as the first ever designed to prevent cancer; it works by guarding against the human papillomavirus (HPV), which is thought to cause about three of every four cases of cervical cancer, the second most common cancer among women, and the third most deadly around the world. It kills close to 4000 women each year in the U.S. alone.
With pap screening, 4000 deaths is not a lot with cancer these days.
I would like to see figures on hysterectomy due to + paps.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...206813,00.html

Would this vaccine make people more casual with sex? would other diseases like Herpes, HIV, become more prevalent? Since people would stop safe sex with condoms? Or keeping partners exclusive?

So sensible activity...still is the best preventative, IMO.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...1/s1799987.htm

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Wednesday, November 29, 2006. 11:41am (AEDT)

PM announces cervical cancer vaccination program

The Federal Government has announced a national vaccination program for the cervical cancer drug, Gardasil.

From next April all girls aged 12 and 13 will be vaccinated, while a catch-up program will also operate through schools for those aged up to 18.

It will also be available through GPs for the next two years for women aged 18 to 26.

A decision on subsidising the drug was initially rejected by the Pharmaceutical Benefits Advisory Committee, but Prime Minister John Howard says a better deal has been reached.

"This represents an excellent outcome so that this great Australian drug can be made widely and cheaply available for Australian women," he said.

"It's a wonderful breakthrough treating cervical cancer, providing protection from cervical cancer."
bold in both articles added by me.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...1/s1800460.htm

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Wednesday, November 29, 2006. 5:08pm (AEDT)
The Federal Government has given the go ahead for the $436 million immunisation program which will be carried out through schools from April next year.
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I had an appointment this week with my GP and I asked him about this vaccine. He said it is a series of 3 shots and it costs $400. (I live in Canada) He also told me that he would wait a year or 2 to see how things go with it. My daughter is 14 and she and I talked about the vaccine as well as other info relating to HPV.

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I've got a BAD-BAD feeling about this drug.

I posted in response to something Dr. John posted awhile back:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/showthread.php?t=7604

I think parents would be making a HUGE mistake on agreeing to this drug now. Maybe later -- after it's been tested.

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