[melon]

i just recieved mine today from the US but it has no batteries in it all.

If any one else is planning on trying MrsD's idea Id just thought Id let you know ( unless this is common )

I just assumed it would come with them.

m

[Jomar]

hmm, mine came w/ batteries & a little case for the whole thing.

You might recheck the page for yours and see if it is supposed to have batteries or not. sometimes they mess up.

For Amazon-
We got a used or returned phone once and they sent a new replacement right away and gave us 30 days to return the bad one.
I just contacted them thru the contact us or customer service page, although I think it took me awhile to find the info page I wanted - seems like it wasn't easy to find...

[melon]

Originally Posted by Jo*mar

hmm, mine came w/ batteries & a little case for the whole thing.

You might recheck the page for yours and see if it is supposed to have batteries or not. sometimes they mess up.

For Amazon-
We got a used or returned phone once and they sent a new replacement right away and gave us 30 days to return the bad one.
I just contacted them thru the contact us or customer service page, although I think it took me awhile to find the info page I wanted - seems like it wasn't easy to find...

I bought mine through amazon too ( in fact one of MrsDs links if i recall ) but my experince with amazon sellers has not been good ( esp 3rd party as this was ) because they usually dont reply.

Worst part is I could really do with it now too since my problems listed in the DMSO post.

Winter is coming and my legs are numb ..

I got pretty good stock here for emergencies but Im not sure what else to do other than try vitamins that bio- chelat / DMSO is supposed to deplete .

Vitamin D
Liver detox regen from now
potassium helped for a while today then stopped
im out of choline cdp which was one ofthe few things that helped along with benfotiamine
started trying some chia seeds gel yesterday , but pretty gross
ashwagandha seemed to help for while too

but the most effective thing really has been my edgar caynce detox of olive oil,epsom salts and lemon ..

m

[mrsD]

mine did not come with batteries either. For the small price it is not expected IMO.. Where I bought mine on Ebay that was stated... but maybe elsewhere that is less clear?

Many things do not come with batteries. I paid 2.89 dollars for a nice strong laser pointer. I did not expect batteries at all.

[Tulips]

Is this the same thing as the light therapy Or infrared therapy?
I foun some products on amazon being used for wrinkles that's same thing as the light therapy product. Wounded if that would work too?

By the way. Taking Alpha lipoid acid 600mg is helping A lot! regularly!!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B000G...3215228&sr=8-7

I jut posted that link to give an idea. Hope it is okay. I am looking I to getting something so wondering of best option for me.
Any suggestions?

Thankyou

[mrsD]

I am not sure about the anti-wrinkle lasers.

All I know is that the form of light from diodes (non laser)
and the laser type are different. I'd have to research this more when I am home and not confined to short lived batteries and tempermental cell towers for my connections.

I just tried the laser first...as that was what I had on hand--
the pet laser. And when that worked, I went for a stronger affordable type.

[Jomar]

Originally Posted by Tulips

Is this the same thing as the light therapy Or infrared therapy?
I foun some products on amazon being used for wrinkles that's same thing as the light therapy product. Wounded if that would work too?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B000G...3215228&sr=8-7

I jut posted that link to give an idea. Hope it is okay. I am looking I to getting something so wondering of best option for me.
Any suggestions?

Thankyou

The one you posted is a LED light therapy - it is different from the Laser light therapy.

They both do similar things cell /healing wise, but the laser is used for a much shorter time - while the LED machines must be used for 15 - 30 minutes or more per area.


So basically if you have some smaller specific areas to treat and want to get it done quickly the Laser pens will work nicely.
cost of the laser pens - $2 and up - mine was 4.25 w/batteries

professional laser machines at 1,000.00 and up
about 20 seconds is all they need per treatment spot


But if you have larger areas to treat & have time to sit with the LED /lightwave in the position to do the treatments then it would be worth a try. 79.95 on Amazon as your link shows

I do have a far infrared heating pad that does a similar cellular healing action but it's best for my back or larger areas, doesn't conform for treatment of smaller spots. It was about 200.00 when I bought it.


This page presents new research
within the field of lllt -
Low Level Laser Therapy.
http://www.laser.nu/lllt/science.htm

[melon]

Originally Posted by Jo*mar

The one you posted is a LED light therapy - it is different from the Laser light therapy.

They both do similar things cell /healing wise, but the laser is used for a much shorter time - while the LED machines must be used for 15 - 30 minutes or more per area.


So basically if you have some smaller specific areas to treat and want to get it done quickly the Laser pens will work nicely.
cost of the laser pens - $2 and up - mine was 4.25 w/batteries

professional laser machines at 1,000.00 and up
about 20 seconds is all they need per treatment spot


But if you have larger areas to treat & have time to sit with the LED /lightwave in the position to do the treatments then it would be worth a try. 79.95 on Amazon as your link shows

I do have a far infrared heating pad that does a similar cellular healing action but it's best for my back or larger areas, doesn't conform for treatment of smaller spots. It was about 200.00 when I bought it.


This page presents new research
within the field of lllt -
Low Level Laser Therapy.
http://www.laser.nu/lllt/science.htm

Its ironic Jo you should mention this.. I just saw a firm here selling a far infrared machine whom I i tried a chi machine with a
2 yrs ago

http://www.chimachine4u.com/hothouse.html

Im not sure about you folks across the waves there , but over here we can get it for a whopping 2 weeks to try for free, so thats exactly what I plan to do seeing as im housebound any way.

m