Everyone has a different definition of "whiners, wimps, and sissies".

You define them as someone who "trudges around like a cloud of doom, dragging you down with them as they "woe, woe, woe" . . . whereas someone else's definition might include "someone who can't climb on that roof, bake those cupcakes, or attend that meeting".

That doesn't necessarily make them "martyrs" either (according to your definition) . . . from their perspective, they just put on their big girl panties and deal with what needs to get done.

You don't have to try to live up to anyone else's expectations, B2Y. If you are happy with YOU, that's all that matters.

Cherie