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Old 12-23-2009, 08:16 AM #1
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Dear Bobby,
I wonder if your Israeli friend was talking about one of these:

http://mentsh.com/avot1-2disc.html

http://www.ravkooktorah.org/KITISA62.htm
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Three signs indicate membership in the Jewish nation: compassion, modesty, and the practice of charity / kindness.)
I think you handled your tdoc brilliantly.
Ignore her and have your own session as you described.
It sounds like you are less depressed than last time.

Family issues are fraught with angst.
I can see how finding out about your nephew is troublesome to you.
When was the last time you saw him? How old was he?
Do you remember anything else about him other than the Jonestown thing?

I hope that you are feeling ok. Maybe the med changes help. I hope.

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Dear Bobby,
I wonder if your Israeli friend was talking about one of these:

http://mentsh.com/avot1-2disc.html

http://www.ravkooktorah.org/KITISA62.htm


I think you handled your tdoc brilliantly.
Ignore her and have your own session as you described.
It sounds like you are less depressed than last time.

Family issues are fraught with angst.
I can see how finding out about your nephew is troublesome to you.
When was the last time you saw him? How old was he?
Do you remember anything else about him other than the Jonestown thing?

I hope that you are feeling ok. Maybe the med changes help. I hope.

M.
hoq did you find that...kindness was the third one. thank you so much....I have learned so much from my friend Suri and love orthodoxy...I grew up reformed and never learned the beauty of Judaism.
Yesterday I was really high. Today I am depressed but it might go away. I saw Alex maybe fifteen years ago or more. It was like yesterday. I have at times a very good memory. I wish I didn't at times. He was in his early twenties and had been out of college for a few years. He behaved like a rich kid who liked me. My three nephews called me Bobby and I guess always thought i was eccentric. They were treated sort of formally by their parents by i was always laid back with them.
Going back on the regular medication dosage has helped I regret to say. I was really hoping i could lower the dosage. The melatonin and magnesium are giving me i think at least another hour of sleep. I have calcium and am having a hard time taking it but that also is supposely helpful in sleep matters too.
I upped my vitamin d to 8,000 a day....which should help my depression....
I am trying.
Before my therapist said i could bring in negative things to her which i don't have to discuss with my friends. She asked for it and I think that will be my line of attack. I don't know what to do. I was a therapist years ago. I would have made such a big deal about meeting Paula....and encouraged me to follow through rather than talk about hygiene.....yuck
Thanks again for finding the third thing. your skills are amazing
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i just ordered a stationary bike with pc games. Dr. M doubled my celexa and my appetite has been terrifying. I miss smoking so much and i have been eating like a maniac. Paula, the woman I met on the bus the other day told me to get a stationary bike and ride on it. I feel so desperate that I thought it was worth the two hundred dollars even though i am terrified of my financial state.
The magnesium and melatonin have really been helping me catch another hour or two of sleep a night. I can't believe it but i think taking them is the reason I am getting extra sleep. Now if i can only force myself to take the calcium which i also need to combat the negative effects of metformin on b12.
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Heart Dear Bobby

Congratulations on the bike!!!

I would ride with you if only i could!

You said you just upped your vitamin D... that will aid your calcium uptake naturally, you know? From food. It might be good to have your calcium level or even all electrolyte/mineral levels checked with your next blood draw after 3 months though, as that is how long it takes for the new vitamin D level to stabilize.

In any event, if you do take extra calcium, make sure the ratio of Mg:Ca supplementation is not greater than 1:2 in favor of the calcium.

That is great news that you are getting a some more sleep. the Celexa could be contributing also. You might actually try removing the melatonin at this point... generally that is for adjusting one's sleep cycle i.e. it should do it's job in a short period of time (few days or a week). Plus, you could always start it up again if necessary.

I am really wowed about the bike. You take it easy though, and start out doing just a bit at a time... just a few minutes at first... you will build up if you do it regularly. regularity is more useful than overdoing it (which can actually be dangerous).

Have fun with it!

Gosh i am so happy for you!


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i am having a blood test this month and will ask the doctor if i can remember to do the magnesium calcium test. re melatonin. i have read that as you get older your body has less melatonin....so I don't think i am going to cut it out.
i don't think celexa has anything to do with this. I am just afraid the added celexa has to do with my increased appetite which i am so scared about.
I also better print out the article for my doctor about how metformin is bad for b12 and that calcium helps its negative effect....what a mess
i hope i use the stationary bike.....i hope the computer games keep me riding....lol
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Dear Bobby,
The bike might be good.
I think I'd use one if I had one set up for me. (that was pretty cool about meeting Paula).

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