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mymorgy 11-19-2011 09:06 AM

i am so sorry you are going through this. do you get a thanksgiving break or just two days off. maybe you can just lie in bed and feel no pressure.
take care
bobby

Mari 11-19-2011 11:44 AM

dose mess continues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waves (Post 825882)

unclear to me what you did now, after dropping to 300 mg (1 capsule). i thought the intention was then to go to half a capsule (150 mg), which was a "known good" dose. did you do that, and for how many days?

or have you always taken "slightly more than half" after the decrease from the full capsule?

i guess i am talking in capsules now to make sure we don't get mixed up again. ;)

going back up to 300 mg (1 capsule) is an option if that had you sleeping... it may take longer for the depression to lift....or

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do you think 3.0 mg would help you sleep more for a couple of days, just to catch up a bit so you can be in better shape to figure out if the depression is from sleep deprivation or from the gabapentin?

~ waves ~

Dear Waves,



Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari (Post 824374)
Hi,

Friday night dose for taper: 400 mgs approx -- 1 and slightly less than 1/2 capsules)

Saturday night dose for taper: 300 mgs (1 capsule).

Tonight / Sunday night plan: 300 mgs approx. I'm worried about tapering too fast.

Monday night plan: Maybe I can go down 150 mgs Monday night and stay there. I was at 600 mgs for exactly 18 days.

Yes. That was the plan. My best guess is that I was taking about 150 (one half capsule) Monday November 14 and each night this week. Friday November 18 morning I woke up depressed.


I'm not really sure what i was taking this week.

I need to track better.

Last night (Friday) I took once capsule and a little more (400 mgs approx).


This is what I have been trying to track in this thread:
1. help with nerve pain
2. help with agitation
3. help with depression.


Agitation improved in the first week or so.
Depression improved. I adjusted the med around late summer/ early fall because I wanted more help with depression
Nerve pain
has not been helped.


I need to find the right dose for balance between help with depression and huge drugged hung over feeling.

I will call Monday for an appointment with hyper mdoc to explain that I want 600 mgs per day in 100 mgs capsules.
(My guess is that I need a daily dose around 300 or a little more. I am 100% comfortable lying to her about how much I really take.)

M

Mari 11-19-2011 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizi (Post 825852)
I am sorry about the sleep, always am.
Is one capsule 300mg?
then I think that would be an ok dose for you.
what do you think?
bizi


Dear Bizi,
Thanks.
Yes, one capsule is 300 mgs.
I think I might need more than one capsule and less than two capsules.

My guess is I need between 300 to 450 mgs.


I will ask mdoc for 100 mgs capsules so I can more easily experiment with dose.

M

Mari 11-19-2011 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mymorgy (Post 825906)
i am so sorry you are going through this. do you get a thanksgiving break or just two days off. maybe you can just lie in bed and feel no pressure.
take care
bobby


Dear Bobby,


Yes. Thanksgiving is good. I have no plans except to stay home. I get two days off. They will be very nice for lying in bed.

M

Dmom3005 11-19-2011 05:00 PM

Mari

I didn't realize they made 100mg pills. Of gabapentin.

I know when I miss a dosage of my med i have problems, so I'm
guessing thats part of your problem changing the dosage. So I think
getting it to were you are at least averaging it to a good amount
normally.

donna:grouphug::hug:

waves 11-19-2011 07:07 PM

Dear Mari

thanks for explaining about what happened after dropping to a single capsule. sorry things are still confused.:o i absolutely agree about getting 100mg capsules to help keep track of dose.

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i screwed up editing my other post it seems so this question became nonsensical. :( here is the correction - missing stuff in red.

Quote:

Originally Posted by waves (Post 825882)
do you think 3.0 mg Klonopin would help you sleep more for a couple of days, just to catch up a bit so you can be in better shape to figure out if the depression is from sleep deprivation or from the gabapentin?

i hope you feel better soon. do you keep a chart at all? it is hard to track things. i haven't got back to charting ... sigh ... it would help with all that is going on, but it's just one more thing to do, isn't it? sigh.

i hope you get more sleep and less depression soon, somehow. have you thought about putting a call in to see if pdoc can help you, temporarily? i'm not sure with what. you've probably thought of that.

lots of hugs

~ waves ~

Mari 11-19-2011 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waves (Post 826039)
]Dear Mari
i hope you feel better soon. do you keep a chart at all? it is hard to track things. i haven't got back to charting ... sigh ... it would help with all that is going on, but it's just one more thing to do, isn't it? sigh.

i hope you get more sleep and less depression soon, somehow. have you thought about putting a call in to see if pdoc can help you, temporarily? i'm not sure with what. you've probably thought of that.

lots of hugs

~ waves ~

Waves,
Yes, raising or lowering the Klonopin for a night would work.

I'm not charting. I thought (HAAAA!) that I was doing a version of charting by posting on this thread. The thread is too long to find what I need and I mentioned my dose in other threads at the same time (argh!).

You are correct that if I had a habit of doing something regularly I could keep up the routine.

Mari

Mari 11-19-2011 11:07 PM

new plan to go to bed
 
Hi,

I slept very little last night (Friday night) and felt drugged / hungover all day today (Saturday). I have no memory of anything I did today. I might have been watching TV but not paying any attention. I don't feel depressed -- that's good.

Tonight (Saturday) this is what I took

~300 mgs Gabapentin (exactly 1 capsule) This is less than the night before
~2.0 Klonopin This is less than most nights of 2.5

~Verapamil
~aspirin
~magnesium


(Yes, I know I changed two things. It was impulsive. I could still take the 0.5. Klonopin now but am choosing not to. I might be clear headed tomorrow. That would be beautiful.

One minute after I swallowed the meds I set the kitchen alarm for one hour. When the alarm goes off I will go to bed whether I feel like it or not.


I have involved Hubby in the project. He has agreed to assist. The kitchen timer is now saying 45 mins.

M

bizi 11-20-2011 01:05 AM

sounds like a good plan, you can always take the extra klonipin if you need it.
I hope you sleep tonight and am very happy hubby is involved.
((((HUGS))))
bizi

Mari 11-20-2011 01:14 AM

Thanks Bizi,

I am running behind my bed time schedule. I am doing some laundry and other things like checking the computer.

I hope to be in bed soon.

M


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