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50 mgs of zinc?!! Also, ratio of zinc to copper

Majo,

I wrote a long post. I hope that is O.K.

Taking zinc on an empty stomach can cause stomach troubles --- I remember having nausea.
I always take zinc with food.

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In this study of people taking Zinc with Antidepressants the patients took only 25 mgs of Zinc per day. This is less than you are taking.
http://www.bastyrcenter.org/content/view/686/

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The new study evaluated the effect of zinc supplementation in people with major depression who were also taking antidepressant medications. Twelve people aged 25 to 57 years were randomly assigned to take one of the following for 12 weeks: (1) 25 mg of zinc per day plus an antidepressant medication, or (2) placebo plus an antidepressant medication. The response to treatment was assessed by using the Hamilton Depression Rating Scale and the Beck Depression Inventory before the trial and at 2, 6, and 12 weeks. Both groups had an improvement in depressive symptoms; however, the zinc-supplemented group showed a statistically significant improvement compared with the placebo group at 6 and 12 weeks.

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Zinc and copper have a relationship to each other. If you take too much zinc, you can become deficient in copper.

Quote:

A total intake of 60 mg zinc daily may trigger a copper deficiency, according to the Linus Pauling Institute. That's why the U.S. Food and Nutrition Board sets the tolerable upper level of intake for zinc, or UL, at 40 mg daily for adults. This includes both dietary and supplemental zinc. Gaining adequate zinc is important, however, because it plays critical roles in neurological function, immune response, growth and development, and reproduction. The tolerable upper intake for copper is 10 mg daily.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/50...#ixzz2AwR9cfSF

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To make this unnecessarilycomplicated, I remember reading that perhaps too much Copper (Cu), can cause bipolar-type symptoms. . . . in my mind, flushing out SOME copper might be good but I could be completely wrong -- not the first time by the way.:eek:

http://www.drkaslow.com/html/zinc-co...mbalances.html

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It has been reported (HRI-PTC) that 80% of hyperactive patients and 68% of behavior-disordered patients have elevated blood copper levels. Their families often report worsened hyperactivity/behavior after consuming vitamin supplements or cereals rich in copper. In many cases, symptoms may be provoked by consuming chocolate (rich in copper) or food dyes rich in hydrazines, which lower blood zinc levels.

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Anyway, you might not need so much Zinc (Zn).
This U.S. Gov web sites says adult women on normal diets need 8 mgs a day.
http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Zinc-QuickFacts/

M

thoughts... cautions... i hope doesn't upset you

Dear Majo

Yes Mari's right about the Zinc. I can't remember if i take 15mg or 30, i think only 15, and that's because i have a medicine which puts it out of my body. it is found in quite a variety of foods, with beef having a pretty high content. if red meat is part of your diet that means you are already getting a good bit of zinc. other sources include spinach, sesame seeds, peas, peanuts, as i said, quite varied. so a moderate supplement should be all you need to avoid the risk of upsetting copper and iron balance (both are affected by zinc).

sorry about those darn cells... i wish there were... emmm... some sort of cell fertilizer?? :D:rolleyes::eek: (jk: did you think of maybe spraying them with some HGF, or putting some in the agar? :cool:)

Seriously. scientifically, do you have an expected growth rate for these cells? if so, can you think of reasons why they might be growing slower than expected? i can only think of obvious things... temperature, pressure, humidity, light/dark... etc. but maybe you can think of other things to do with the culture.

Sorry about all the trouble with arranging the party with this singer and his manager... when you have an established band that's pretty much how things are. Be careful with your emotions around him. I'm sure many girls show interest in him, without thinking he'd reciprocate, and he's probably used to that.

My guess is he does not realize how you feel about him and if he does, he does not realize the extent, much less how sensitive you are. This does not mean he isn't nice person, but I get the sense his perspective on this is different than yours and I am afraid you'll be hurt if you push things. Perhaps you are already arriving at that conclusion yourself, reading your last post.

My suggestion is from here on out to stay friendly with the singer, try hard to work with the manager for the details (if you do not understand what he wants, call back and get clarification on his needs... remember, he's working for YOU - your party), and the party should turn out splendidly. Other than that, I'd say just enjoy this guy's company for what it's worth... while he's there.

Take care sweet Majo ;):hug::hug::hug:

love

~ waves ~

Majo

I know nothing about zinc so listen to the ladies. They are very knowledge
able it seems.

At least with looking it up in some ways.

Heehee

Donna:grouphug::hug:

Hello my ladies !!!!!!!

Thank you for all the posts ! :hug: I actually LOVE long posts !!! :D :) :hug:

Thank you so much for all the help !!! I just rang the doc and he told me to cut the pill in 2, so I will be indeed taking 25 mg now... Thanks Mari ! hopefully this dosage will work ;)

Im so excited about the party.... I can not wait !!! Sometimes I feel really stressed though... plus yeah, Im sure he doesnt feel the same I do :( Cant wait to meet him in person... I know I will feel down after he is gone....

About my cells, they always grow at this slowly rate... nothing is weird or wrong with them, the thing is that I needed 50 dishes this time... :( I made a 3 days experiment last week and guess what: IT FAILED !!! So I still have no results.... my exam is November 28th.... I need to have something new to show... Im so stressed.... :(

Thank you so much for your help and for thinking about me :hug: I love you so much.

when is your party?
sorry about your cells not cooperating.
bizi

In 2 weeks bizi.... :o

I take zinc to stop chocolate cravings. Fewer calories but not as much fun.

Really ?

They have the opposite effect on me...

Chocolate makes me high. Zinc makes me down.

Guys, I feel like stress is gonna induce me a heart attack. Couldnt sleep last night and right now I feel like, you know, when you cant breathe ? :( Need something to calm me down !

Mayo

I think its more the excitement from the party and thinking about it.

So do some deep breathing and some talking to your self about the party
is still a couple of weeks away I need to calm down a little.

Also maybe if you mediate some of this. I think its more your excited
than other things. So just try to calm down your body.

I think you need to also not worry about what can happen, there is only
one person that will make that happen in the end. If the doctor tells
you its possible, then you can take some steps to keep it from happening
right. I know its not easy to not think about it. But maybe say the doctor
will tell me if I need to worry.

I am so glad your having this big party. Maybe we could do a countdown on
here. So you could start a thread and we could all count down with you.
And then party day, Have a online party too.

Donna:grouphug::hug:

I have a thought on the cells.

Isn't it possible to sometimes have a bad year or half a year with them.
So you have to take the bad with the good.

So you would explain what you did this time wasn't what was needed.

Something like that. Its science right and a experiment. And you
did what you were supposed to, it just didn't work.

Donna:grouphug::hug: