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Mari 11-18-2012 04:10 AM

hubby obnoxious
 
Hi,

At one point he asked me if he could have a buddy over for Thanksgiving. I told him that Sunday will be too late to place an order for a cooked bird like he wants. Those orders had to be in weeks ago. I started to offer to cook a fresh bird for him but he had a problem with that.

Then I told him No Guests were allowed in the house this holiday. He and his buddy can go to a restaurant or do whatever else they want but they cannot do it here.

I thought we worked this out a month ago when he said he absolutely did not want to do Thanksgiving. Then Saturday he wanted to entertain the idea. He is exhausting.


M

Ms manic 11-18-2012 07:11 AM

I've had my moment of temper at work too, Mari. One about a month ago. It seems like I can't stand up for myself unless I'm angry. Or mybe I refuse to. Hmm. I'll have to run that by my new therapist on friday. I hate it because it's so embarassing the next time I see those people. Hope all goes well for you.

bizi 11-18-2012 09:48 AM

MEN!!!!
sometimes they just don't get it!
((((HUGS))))
bizi

butterfly11 11-18-2012 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari (Post 932586)
Hi,

I thought we worked this out a month ago when he said he absolutely did not want to do Thanksgiving. Then Saturday he wanted to entertain the idea. He is exhausting.

M

Memo to all fellow human beings:

The holidays are stressful enough. Holidays are not the time to start making last minute plans.

butterfly11 11-18-2012 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ms manic (Post 932607)
It seems like I can't stand up for myself unless I'm angry.

I hate it because it's so embarassing the next time I see those people.

WHOA! I have this EXACT same problem. Please let me know what your therapist says. (if it's not confidential)

Brokenfriend 11-19-2012 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by butterfly11 (Post 932816)
Memo to all fellow human beings:

The holidays are stressful enough. Holidays are not the time to start making last minute plans.

When people make last minute plans,at causes anxiety,and fatigue. I worked at a supermarket for just under 14 years. It strained us,and the customers where dreading Thanksgiving,and Christmas because it made them so busy.

They said to me that they had a million things to do. I hear the same thing where ever I go. In the 20th,and 21 century,it has become a shopping event,and pressure. Then things calm down after the first of the year. BF:hug::hug::hug:

Mari 11-19-2012 09:30 PM

Weird Stuff -- feel good right now
 
Hello,

I am in a good mood.

What is happening??
I have racked my brain to think through what I am doing that is different. This is all I have to work with: three hours of sleep last night and a slight change in the weather -- a slightly cooler day.
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-cool13.gif
What is it? Can this persist?

M

butterfly11 11-19-2012 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari (Post 933056)
Hello,

I am in a good mood.

What is happening??

M

Don't know what's happening, but I hope it hangs around!

Brokenfriend 11-19-2012 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari (Post 933056)
Hello,

I am in a good mood.

What is happening??
I have racked my brain to think through what I am doing that is different. This is all I have to work with: three hours of sleep last night and a slight change in the weather -- a slightly cooler day.
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-cool13.gif
What is it? Can this persist?

M

Hi Mari. Feel good about this. I'm so glad that you are in a good mood,and feel better. Don't try to figure it out at this time. Just rejoice in this good feeling. BF:hug::hug::hug:

bizi 11-19-2012 10:55 PM

Wow, I am glad that you were in a good mood. I hope that you have many more of these days ahead of you.
I wish you slept better.
bizi:hug:

Mari 11-20-2012 03:18 AM

That changed.

. . . having a not great night.

I hope tomorrow is a good day.

Mari 11-20-2012 05:39 AM

Good mood left.
 
Joan Baez - Diamonds & Rust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00EbS...eature=related
I ran across this beautiful sad song.



Quote:

As I remember your eyes
Were bluer than robin's eggs
My poetry was lousy you said
Where are you calling from?
A booth in the midwest
Ten years ago
I bought you some cufflinks
You brought me something
We both know what memories can bring
They bring diamonds and rust

Mari 11-22-2012 03:14 AM

I am barely medicated -- so close to the margins that I have to take my meds on time.

Tonight i took them later than I have for while.
This is affecting my bed time. I might be up for the foreseeable future.
M

waves 11-22-2012 08:55 AM

Dear Mari

I hope you can rest and that today will be peaceful for you. many hugs :hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug:

:Heart:

~ waves ~

katmae 11-22-2012 09:18 AM

Thanksgiving
 
I hope that you have got some rest,and I wanted to wish you a happy thanksgiving:grouphug:

bizi 11-22-2012 09:54 AM

Happy thanksgiving Mari, maybe a nap this afternoon could be a priority?
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

butterfly11 11-22-2012 07:57 PM

Hope you were able to get a nap today.

katmae 11-22-2012 09:26 PM

mari
 
I hope that your doing well and that you had a nice Thanksgiving:hug::hug:

Mari 11-23-2012 04:47 AM

I slept in bit and pieces --- none of them restful.

I am concerned that I messed up my sleep pattern even more. I have long felt that I am a little too compulsive about worrying about sleep, . . . but getting enough sleeps to be the whole ball game.
Right now the whole thing is a sorry state of affairs as I am wide awake at 4:46 a.m. and not headed to bed.

M

bizi 11-23-2012 10:05 AM

(((((HUGS)))))
sorry this is so hard for you right now.
bizi

butterfly11 11-23-2012 04:50 PM

Hope your sleep rhythm cycle can get back with the program soon!

Mari 11-24-2012 01:50 PM

Argh!
 
Hubby and the cleaning lady have spent an hour and a half trying to install a new microwave because the old one died a few months a go.
Next time, hubby should let the store install the item ---That's an idea. :mad:

I am so annoyed.


M

Mari 11-24-2012 02:26 PM

I do not need this agita.
 
Hubby and cleaning lady are returning the new microwave to the store because they figured out is does not fit in the spot. It is too big and it vents wrong.

This is too much excitement in my day.
I wanted a quiet day.


And I wanted a clean house at the end of the day.

Instead of cleaning she is spending hours on this mishigas.

And yes, I am very grouchy because hubby is a dufus about some things.


M

butterfly11 11-24-2012 04:24 PM

Sounds frustrating. I hope the next one fits :)

bizi 11-24-2012 09:30 PM

maybe you can have some quietness on sunday?
sorry for the frustration.
bizi

Mari 11-26-2012 01:33 AM

Hi,

Things are settled down.
Yesterday the two of them bought a new microwave and arranged for it to be delivered and installed on Saturday.

Sunday was a good day. I had a lunch meetup and stopped by my friend's house on the way home to catch up on news.
Then I watched Homeland on Showtime.

M

Brokenfriend 11-26-2012 02:01 AM

Hi Mari
 
I'm glad that you had a good day,and where able to visit a friend,and see "Homeland".

I wasn't able to sleep last night. I had one thought after another. After a while,I was having upsetting thoughts when it was getting light outside. I called my sister,and told her that I wasn't going to church today at 8:45 AM. Then I fell asleep around 10AM. These thoughts where upsetting at the time,but I forgot about the intensity of the thoughts after I slept,and got up.

I looked up,Rapid cycling,and thought that this is probably what it is. My doctors,or therapists have not talked to me about these terms. I've hear about it here. I'd better go to bed soon. I was up way to late last night. BF:hug::hug::hug:

bizi 11-26-2012 09:57 AM

steve I hope you were able to sleep last night.
sorry for the bad thoughts. (((HUGS))))
bizi

Brokenfriend 11-26-2012 02:50 PM

Thank you Bizi. I was able to sleep well last night. I need to eat much earlier then an hour,or two before bed. My allergies where worked up after I had a late,late,late dinner. It's hard to sleep while having a mild allergy attack. I took the allergy meds much earlier...but...still,I have these nights where I seem to think one thought after another,all night long,and into the morning. Sometimes it's fear thoughts,and worry. My dentist says that I grind my teeth sometimes while I sleep. BF:hug::hug::hug:

butterfly11 11-26-2012 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brokenfriend (Post 934686)
..still,I have these nights where I seem to think one thought after another,all night long,and into the morning. Sometimes it's fear thoughts,and worry. My dentist says that I grind my teeth sometimes while I sleep. BF:hug::hug::hug:

This happens to me, too. It can be snippets of a conversation that I had recently replaying, or something I need to do or something I need to remember. My pdoc suggested keeping a notebook & pen in my bedroom. She said if I wrote it down (whatever I kept thinking about over & over) that I may have more tendency to let it go & stop thinking about it. I have had mixed results with that. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Also, this is the one place where I allow myself sloppy penmanship and scratch-outs. In the morning I rip out the page & throw it away. Sometimes if I need to I'll transfer a note or two to the calendar. But it's not the kind of notebook that you keep. You are not alone. I grind my teeth at night also and my dentist made me a silicone-ish guard to wear when I sleep. It's uncomfortable at first b/c it causes excess saliva until your mouth gets used to it, but it does stop my back molars from hurting.

butterfly11 11-26-2012 05:10 PM

Forgot to say BF my pdoc called mine "racing thoughts". Some nights are worse/better than others.

bizi 11-26-2012 06:00 PM

I take 1mg klonipin to sleep at night, works like a charm! But I have been snoring lately and my jaws hurt in the morning so maybe I am also clenching my teeth.
bizi

Brokenfriend 11-27-2012 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by butterfly11 (Post 934707)
This happens to me, too. It can be snippets of a conversation that I had recently replaying, or something I need to do or something I need to remember. My pdoc suggested keeping a notebook & pen in my bedroom. She said if I wrote it down (whatever I kept thinking about over & over) that I may have more tendency to let it go & stop thinking about it. I have had mixed results with that. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Also, this is the one place where I allow myself sloppy penmanship and scratch-outs. In the morning I rip out the page & throw it away. Sometimes if I need to I'll transfer a note or two to the calendar. But it's not the kind of notebook that you keep. You are not alone. I grind my teeth at night also and my dentist made me a silicone-ish guard to wear when I sleep. It's uncomfortable at first b/c it causes excess saliva until your mouth gets used to it, but it does stop my back molars from hurting.

Butterfly I know what you mean. If I write the worry down,I may be able to let it go.

I have written many notes of things to remember. Most of the time I throw these notes away. If it's a obsession,I may write it down if it worries me. Then I let the memory of that thought fade away,then I throw the note away. BF:hug::hug::hug:

Brokenfriend 11-27-2012 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by butterfly11 (Post 934713)
Forgot to say BF my pdoc called mine "racing thoughts". Some nights are worse/better than others.

Butterfly Yes. When these thoughts race,they are very/extra tormenting. When they turn to irrational worries,and many at the same time,that's when my chest may start to hurt from the muscles tightening.

I also use 24 hour anti acid meds,because anxiety,and the meds that we use sometimes irritates the stomach,and digestive track. I've taken many Imodium in my time also. BF:hug::hug::hug:

Mari 11-27-2012 12:53 AM

Butterfly,

I pray that you get a pdoc who is interested in medicating you for the racing thoughts. They can debilitating.

M

butterfly11 11-27-2012 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brokenfriend (Post 934799)
Butterfly Yes. When these thoughts race,they are very/extra tormenting. When they turn to irrational worries,and many at the same time,that's when my chest may start to hurt from the muscles tightening.

I also use 24 hour anti acid meds,because anxiety,and the meds that we use sometimes irritates the stomach,and digestive track. I've taken many Imodium in my time also. BF:hug::hug::hug:

I know what you mean. I keep a bottle of Maalox in my bathroom. I don't even keep a spoon in there anymore, I just drink out of the bottle.

butterfly11 11-27-2012 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari (Post 934812)
Butterfly,

I pray that you get a pdoc who is interested in medicating you for the racing thoughts. They can debilitating.

M

There is a scan feature on my radio in my van. If I press the scan feature then it plays a station for about 30 seconds then switches to the next station, plays that one for 30 seconds, on & on. That is how my racing thoughts can be - disconnected, disjointed, sometimes making sense, sometimes a single word repeating over and over, with me wondering why in the world am I thinking about this? Pdoc never offered me anything for this other than Ambien or other sleep aides. And the notebook thing.

Mari 11-27-2012 07:47 PM

My polite answer: The pdoc is a moron.

Lots of pdocs have problems 1) recognizing anxiety and 2) medicating for it.

M

Mari 11-28-2012 02:25 AM

Having a hard time.

Not getting enough sleep.
Really really behind on my work.


I wish people at work would leave me alone. I could use a break from them -- no more of the following:
talking, making up junk, lying, needing favors, being fake nice, being needy, being whiney, complaining, trashing other colleagues, feeding the rumor mill, expecting so much of me.

I am tired.

Brokenfriend 11-28-2012 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari (Post 935109)
Having a hard time.

Not getting enough sleep.
Really really behind on my work.


I wish people at work would leave me alone. I could use a break from them -- no more of the following:
talking, making up junk, lying, needing favors, being fake nice, being needy, being whiney, complaining, trashing other colleagues, feeding the rumor mill, expecting so much of me.

I am tired.

I'm sorry Mari. I know what you mean. I was pretty much burned out because of the people who I worked with. One thing is for sure. You can't please everyone.

At the Supermarket where I was working,the owner of the business asked me to take care of the things that she wanted done. This put me at odds with the manager at times. Then in the long run,they all drove me up the wall. I was so angry,and I didn't get paid a descent wage. It goes on,and on.

I think that our mental health issues,and a bad job takes it's toll on us. BF:hug::hug::hug:


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