[BlueMajo]

Oh my, I misunderstood Thought that med was given to another doc and no the skin guy LOL

Sorry, my mind is like an air bag today

Glad you went Mari

Everything is gonna be alright.

[Mari]

That derm doc was weird. I am only going to deal with with women docs from now on.

I looked up pictures of the mango rash. Some pics looked like my rash but maybe all rashes have at least some similarities.

IF I am allergic to the skin of the mango . . . that would not be good. Mangos are somewhat related to bananas, poison ivy, and latex.
And although I have enough sense not to rub against the skin of the fruit now, the juice and flesh shows up in odd food mixes so I will have to be watchful.

Hubby is very confused . . .. he does not see how I could possibly be o.k. with mangos one day and than not o.k. two days later. I am done explaining this to him.
Next time I will make him come to future doctor appointments with me if he wants explanations and assurances.

I do not feel good.

M

[BlueMajo]

Hahahaha I hate weird docs yes... Cant really trust them.... Hehe
But how is the rash today ? Any better ?

I like your idea Mari, if hubby doesnt get it just whatever... I really get tired (and ******) when people just dont get a health problem I have and keeps asking at the same time....

Sorry to hear you are not feeling alright. Feel better soon.

[waves]

Hi Mari,

Well, mangoes in particular do cause a lot of allergic reactions, especially the fruit peel. Some people are ok eating the pulp as long as they don't touch the peel. Maybe you are aware of whether you had more contact with the peel than usual in your recent handling of mangoes.

If you consumed the fruit, you are almost certainly not allergic to the pulp as you should have broken out around the lips and/or in the mouth. In this case, you should be ok eating mango, provided you don't handle the peel.

A frequent manifestation of mango peel allergy occurs when people eat the fruit right off the peel instead of peeling the fruit before eating it. In this case, they break out around their mouth, where there was contact with the fruit peel. The skin around the mouth is more susceptible to reactions than are the palms and fingertips. The tops of the hands and arms might have a similar susceptibility - I'm not sure.

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How interesting that mango is related to poison ivy and latex! I am surprised to hear it is also related to bananas, though. While poison ivy is well known for the nasty dermatitis it causes and latex allergy is not infrequent, I've not heard of bananas being particularly problematic. (I may be underinformed in that regard.)

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I agree that if hubby wants to "get things" he can come with you next time. What he needs to do now is be supportive, period. You have enough on your hands. If he wants more explanations here and now, he can use Google.

I hope you feel better soon in every way. Let us know how you are doing, and how the rash is.

waves

[Mari]

Originally Posted by waves

If you consumed the fruit, you are almost certainly not allergic to the pulp as you should have broken out around the lips and/or in the mouth. In this case, you should be ok eating mango, provided you don't handle the peel.

Waves,

I had a delayed breakout around the edges of my mouth. It happened after the rash on my hands.

Bananas and Latex: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8006321

Capers: Capers Cashew: Cashew, Mango, Pistachio: http://www.foodallergygourmet.com/Fo...20Families.htm

Urushiol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urushiol

I have to go to another MD today so I cannot read all of this carefully right now.
It appears that bananas and mangos are not as related to each other as I thought although they both can be related to latex -- not sure.

Mari

[waves]

Originally Posted by Mari

Waves,

I had a delayed breakout around the edges of my mouth. It happened after the rash on my hands.

wow. Well then if you did not eat the fruit right off the peel, it does sound like you are allergic to the pulp as well. You may be less allergic to it than to the peel. That could explain why the rash on your hands appeared first. Also I wonder if you didn't handle the fruit well before you ate it (during shopping, unpacking and/or moving it at home).

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I took a look at your links. Here are my observations.

Bananas and latex:
The study you cited clearly indicates some degree of cross-allergy between latex and bananas. It would imply that if one is allergy-prone, and has a known allergy to one of the two, they should be cautious about contact with the other.

Latex and other saps:
Latex is the congealed sap of the "Rubber Tree", a member of the Euphorbiaceae plant family. Many members of this family (eg. Euphorbia (various species), mangroves, crotons) have a milky sap which is irritating to varying degress, and with which contact should be avoided. Wiki claims the Crotonideae are innocuous - my mother grew them and claims the contrary. I believe my mother.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphorbiaceae

The family contains a large variety of phytotoxins (toxic substances produced by plants), mainly diterpene esters, alkaloids, glycosides, and ricin-type toxins.

Btw, ricin is a toxin found in castor oil.

Poison Ivy, Cashew, Mango, Pistachio:
All are members of the Anacardiaceae family of plants. Some are more likely to cause allergies. I haven't heard of anyone "immune" to poison ivy. Mango allergy is common. Cashew and pistachio allergy might be less so(?). If allergic to mango, cashew, or pistachio, you should be cautious with the others. I didn't read enough to determine whether, in all cases, the allergy is produced by urushiol content.

Capers:
No idea how capers enter into this, as they belong to neither of the groups of indicted plant families. I have encountered people who are allergic to capers but I don't think it is particularly common.

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I am going to watch Sherlock Holmes now. I might post later if I think of something else, or find something else. I didn't cross-check latex and mango, but they are in distinct plant families as I stated above.

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[waves]

http://wearenotfoodies.com/the-nutty...d-mangoes.html

The oil urushiol is found in the skin of the mango and the shells of the pistachio and cashew. Given that it is near impossible that to slice a mango without exposing the fruit to the oils released from the skin, the urushoil makes contact with the fruit.

Now I understand why some people can eat the fruit it is peeled - relatively small amounts of urushiol. Those who react to the peeled fruit are clearly more sensitive, so they react even to the small quantity that has contaminated the pulp.

Likewise, since most pistachios come in their shells, one cannot avoid touching the shell to remove the nut. The process used to remove the cashew from it’s shell is to roast the shell. Proper roasting of the shells destroys the toxin. One could surmise that pistachios are roasted differently and the presence of the shell with the nut makes for contact with the toxic oil more likely.

Mari, urushiol can be transferred from one surface to another. Repeat exposure can occur via contact with previously exposed clothing or surfaces. Ask hubby to clean areas any areas where the mangos have been; also wash any possibly exposed clothing. If hubby eats mangos in future, he needs to keep these things in mind too.

The wiki article on urushiol mentions that the odds of reacting increase with each exposure. Some do not react with their first exposure. (sounds like your case). Once a reaction occurs, subsequent exposures tend to produce progressively greater reactions.

One last thing. The additional rash around the mouth makes practically certain this is a mango allergy. In light of that, taking Benadryl by mouth might be very helpful, especially if the rash is still developing at all. (Do not use Benadryl cream - only use the prescribed steroid.)

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[bizi]

What a shame, mangos are my favorite fruit. I have a mild reaction to them if I eat it off the peel and get some of the peel in my mouth....makes my mouth tingle. also one time I sucked on the giant pit and had that same tingling sensation. Mango chutneys are good on fish.
Does this mean you can't eat mangos anymore?
I am sorry if that is the case.
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

[waves]

With that kind of reaction Bizi, it would be a bad idea to have mango any time soon. Maybe after waiting several years, it could be tried again. The immune response sometimes settles down if it is not solicited repeatedly by the same allergen.

I'd also advise you to consume them with caution, since they tingle. The peel and pit should both be removed as carefully as possible. - as I said in the above post, repeat exposures can apparently cause greater reactions.

I don't personally like mango chutney (or other sweet toppings) on fish... blechhh! I like the fruit though, and I looooove mango lassies!

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[bizi]

what is a lassies?????