ahhh, thanks waves.

I was just thinking that was very late in the night/early morning to be still awake, but you're obviously a night-owl. .

That I am.

Even when I sleep at night, actually, and have to get up early (6, 7, 8) .... 1 am isn't late for me.

Right now I mostly sleep during the day though.

Just wanted to say hi, have been away and unable to follow.
bizi

Hiya, Bizi. Thanks for stopping by.

Oh boy.

Ice cream is bad for me. Ice cream is very bad. (But it's so gooood! ).
SX: throat cleariing for over a half hour after eating.

The beer I had... hmmm 5 days ago? ... was worse.
SX: chest pain!

I will note that I also had a beer 2 days ago did not seem to do anything. It was the same kind of beer and both were drunk cold on an empty stomach. So maybe it was a combination, but the beer definitely played a part.

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Coffee does not do anything obvious, but I have some concern that it might be a chronic contributor, increasing my odds of having symptoms.

I have thought about it, and I fear the only way I will know is to remove/reintroduce coffee. Probably just a few days of abstinence would be sufficient for the remove part here.

I frequently tell myseelf I am just going to stop: why keep a potential aggravant, etc. But I don't. Coffee is a much worse addiction than smoking was for me. I will try to build a mental state where I can accept stopping just for a few days... to do the remove/reintroduce test.

Good thing I am at least able to cut down, but did not do well with that either, yesterday.

I apolgoize if this is all senseless jabbering to anyone -- it's stuff that might be useful to me, so I am not deleting it.

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Coffee Log for 23rrd of June

6 cups with 1 level tsp.... Estimated.

Estimated ==> My memory of cup 3 is hazy. I fell asleep unexpectedly and awoke dazed and confused. People instantly began talking at me and phoning me, so I was not too present with what I was doing or where I was before falling asleep............... My doubts are that "cup 3" might actually have been cup 2 leftovers from before sleeping that I reheated. Then it would be 5 level tsp for the day... still over quota but better.

Sleep deprivation does not facilitate coffee-counting.

I know I had three cups in the evening because I was a friggin unsleptt wreck buut wanted to talk to my friend at night. We had a good talk, as always.

waves

Hi, Waves


You are learning

Ice cream is very bad
The beer was worse
^^^
But maybe it was the combination of the above two.

You probably have most of your information -- that coffee has not been proven to be the cupric but it may be a contributing factor.
That is a lot of information. If you cannot cut out coffee for the time period you want, you will still have information.

M

Waves,

I am happy that you had that talk.

Mari

Thanks!! And, yes, it really is time for dancing! (If only I could, I might actually lose a little more! )

No, seriously, I've lost over 25 lbs since last June. I'm not really losing any more... I seem to be stationary. I'd like to lose a bit more, but I am pretty happy it's come down at least this far again. I already feel "basically" myself at this weight, which I really didn't before... I felt unbalanced and clumsy. OK Fine, what EVer, I am fundamentally clumsy, but ... I felt a LOT clumsiER, which really sucked.

So yeah. Definitely been dancing about this, at least in spirit.



waves

Hmmmm.... a rootbeer float, minus the root! Probably someone somewhere does that but, in my case, the two items were consumed on different days altogether.

Beer
The pain after the beer I must say mystifies, still. I've had beer often enough without getting that. There must have been something else going on already, but beats me what. Next time it happens I'll try writing a complete activity and food log for the day and see.

Ice cream
I had just one scoop yesterday, with only slight sx. Same kind -- cappuccino (a triple whammy -- milk fat, coffee and chocolate all in one! ) Anyway good to know I can choose between one scoop/slight symptoms, or two scoops/significant symptoms.

Bell pepper, red onion
One of those two might not agree. I would like to figure out if it is the one, the other, both, or indeed neither. (I do get minimal sx whenever I eat, period.) I made a version of my veggie "steamfry" today: celery, carrots, bell pepper (usual amount), red onion (half as much as usual), green beans (addition), soy sauce but no spices. A bit of basmati. Possible sx... not the throat clearing, but some mouth burning. Possible coincidence. Timing also close to gabapentin trough level.

Yes, that's true. I can at least be cautious, knowing that certain things are potential offenders. I can continue to refine my information, to determine the degree of offense.

It really helps to know the likely problem behind the throat clearning and the chest pain too. I was barking up totally wrong trees before, on these two symptoms. I could kiss that ENT doctor's feet.

waves