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mymorgy 05-01-2021 07:12 AM

i will try not to go to ebay today and not think about tomorrow. i will start eating eggs again and oatmeal. i am going to try to be more in control.
little by little.
love
bobby

i talked to linda yesterday. she talked about at one point her oldest son's pancreas transplant. she did detective work and got in touch with the donor's guardian. he was only 14 and the guardian donated everything, even his skin. incredible.

bizi 05-01-2021 10:14 AM

yes I have heard of skin donation, also gums donation. I am an organ donor, but then the rest of my body goes to LSu science.Where they will work on my body for 3 years the cremate the rest of me and send it back to jeff.

mymorgy 05-01-2021 11:05 AM

that is so noble of you. the jewish religion forbids it.
love
bobby

Wren 05-01-2021 11:28 AM

When I die all of me goes to Barnes Jewish Hospital/Washington University. I think when they are finished all that remains gets flushed away. It's all set - even the ambulance delivering my body has been paid. It was not a difficult or complicated arrangement.

mymorgy 05-01-2021 11:33 AM

Donation of an organ from a living person to save another's life, where the donor's health will not appreciably suffer, is permitted and encouraged in Jewish law. Donation of an organ from a dead person is equally permitted for the same purpose: to save a life (pikuach nefesh).
i was wrong

Stem Cell Research
Based on Deuteronomy 21:22-23, which states that if a criminal is put to death by hanging, “his body shall not remain all night hanging on the tree, but thou shalt surely bury him that same day,” the rabbis conclude that to mistreat or mutilate the body of a deceased (known in Hebrew as nivul hamet) is a violation of scriptural law.

Since it is argued that the body of a deceased is in a sense being mutilated when an organ is removed for translplant into the body of a living person, strong opposition to the procedure exists. Most authorities agree, however, that when a transplant is likely to save a life, such surgery is permitted. Transplant surgery that results in the saving of a life adds glory and honor to the dead (in Hebrew kavod hamet). Thus, the positive commandment of saving a life is the highest priority, even superceding the laws of the Sabbath. The talmudic principle that is applied by the advocates of transplant surgery is zeh ne'heneh vezeh lo chaser, “one party is helped and the other is not harmed.”

Aside from the question of mutilation of the dead, many in the Orthodox community object to organ transplant surgery on the ground that it is a violation of Jewish law requiring that all severed parts of a person be buried. The question of organ donation has been addressed by Rabbi Moshe Feinstein, who counters that when any organ form the body of a deceased is transplanted into a living person, the organ can no longer be considered an organ of the dead; it becomes part of a living body, and the law demanding the burial of all parts of a deceased does not apply. Rabbi Isaac Klein, a Conservative rabbi, points out that a transplanted organ will eventually be buried, thus satisfying the requirement.

Dmom3005 05-01-2021 05:24 PM

I'm not near as noble as you ladies. I just can't get that kind of idea.

Donna

bizi 05-01-2021 08:12 PM

I guess the way I see it is that I might as well be useful in the after life.I don't want to be berried Or have the added expense of a funeral. I just don't believe in that. funerals are expensive these days. I never thought about an ambulance taking me to LSU. I wonder if there is an expense in organ donation. I never thought of that. I would hope not. Maybe I need to call

to find out.
bizi

mymorgy 07-03-2021 10:48 AM

i am really out of control. i feel like an alcoholic. my father was one and he finally late in life told me he drank to make himself feel better. i grew up in a very disfunction selfish family and was the caretaker at a very young age when older tried not to drink. yesterday and early this morning i was so self indulgent and destructive. because i have been so depressed i gorged myself on a huge amount of ice cream ,a whole pie and some little pies i am so overweight and have diabetes and just didn't care.
while i was eating i wasn't depressed. as soon as i stopped eating the depression came back and i plan to do it again.


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