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Old 02-09-2008, 02:32 AM #11
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Bizi,

If you suspect gall bladder, go ahead and make an appointment. According to this CNN article below, some blood work can be ordered for possible diagnosis.


Or you could go zero saturated fat and tons of fruits and veggies and water for a few weeks and see how that goes. (After gall bladder removal, patients are told to eat less fat I think.)

I've seen gall bladder flushes described on the web. You are not supposed to do them when you are in the midst of an attack. One time hubby tried to do a liver flush --- but that was with the help of my acupuncturist. I don't know enough about that stuff to mess around with it on my own.

I rarely eat chinese food. I don't even like the taste or smell. But mostly I feel miserable afterwards. Something about the food doesn't work well with my body.

So I have no good guesses about what is going on with you. I hope you will feel ok soon.

Contact Mrs. Bear. One of her sons had gall bladder surgery.

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http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/DS/00165.html

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If your doctor suspects gallstones, you may have a blood test to check for signs of infection (shown by an elevated white blood cell count), abnormal levels of liver or pancreatic enzymes, or excess bilirubin.
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Prevention
Although you can't entirely prevent gallstones from forming, you may be able to lower your risk by following these suggestions:

-Maintain a healthy body weight.
-Avoid crash diets or a very low intake of calories — less than 800 calories a day.
-Exercise regularly.
-Choose a low-fat, high-fiber diet that emphasizes fresh fruits, vegetables and whole grains. Reduce the amount of animal fat, butter, margarine, mayonnaise and fried foods you eat.

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Lightbulb you can have just sluggish gallbladder,

and that will not show up on tests (except very invasive ones).

I had that problem and fixed it (by accident) with a tea called Yerba Mate. A friend gave me this tea for a gift a couple of years ago. Have had no right sided pain since! (my pain was in the back below the ribs and quite awful). All my tests were negative for stones.
This tea is an antioxidant tea, drunk in S.America culturally and is very popular there. It happens to be much higher in antioxidants than green tea. But it also
is a cholertic. ( I have a congenital malrotation of the GI tract, so I get torsions, nausea and sometimes obstructions with it). I use the organic unsmoked variety by EcoTeas. (have to get it online as stores don't typically have it)

Another thing that helps is the amino acid taurine. That is a very benign option.
(no side effects etc). It improves bile flow.

I use ginger for nausea. It works very well for me. It is inexpensive too.
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Hi sweetheart. If you have gall stones, a flush could push the stones into the bilary tubes and cause serious complications. It would be best to see a gastro doc first.

Right side pain that presents after eating can be gall stones or a sluggish gall bladder. Both boys had slow empty-ing gall bladders and had to have them removed.

They were diagnosed by a hyda scan. Which was very simple. They laid on a bed and the tech observed their digestive flow with a CAT I think (or ultra sound, I can't remember now.) But, mid way through the test they introduced a chemical that made the gall bladder think that fat had entered the digestive system and then they observed how quickly the gall bladder emptied. Then the tests were interpreted by the gastro and we went to a surgeon from there.

They both had ultra sounds prior to this test that showed neither boy had gall stones.

A diet of limited fat was the only way to keep the pain to minimum. Keeping hydrated was important as well. But both boys were vomiting profusely.

I was told by several nurses that most people ended up in the ER because of the pain before a diagnosis was made. Con did not, but Wes did. He had vomited so much he was bleeding in his esophegus.

SO, don't let it get that far.

If it is a gall stone issue, and ultra sound will see them.

My oldest sister and my brother had slow gall bladders and my youngest sister had stones. Only 2 of us left out of 5 siblings without the surgery.

Hang in there and get thee to a doctor.

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Thank you mrs. Bear....
the weird thing is that I did not eat that high a fat content at dinner...but ate a lot of stir fry shrimp maybe there was a lot of oil in that???
I aprreciate your post and that is alot of folks in your family having to have the same surgery...wonder if it is heriditarily linked at all.
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NOt sure what to say. I have a gall stone with other things. But they aren't doing anything with mine. ANd some kidney stones, nothing there either at this point. Other issues more in need of taking care of.

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