[mrsD]

This is in our health news forum:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20080517...ninolderadults

It is estimated today that about 50% or more of the American public is
significantly deficient in Vitamin D.

You can have blood tests to detect this. I am finding on the forums that many if not most with health woes are turning up deficient, some dangerously so.

2000IU of Vit D3 daily is becoming the new suggested daily intake.

Just Google The Vitamin Council. More data is available there.

[BJ]

This makes a lot of sense MrsD. I've never been tested, do you just ask for it? I know I don't get any where near that much and just take a multi-vitamin. But I do know getting out in the sun makes my mood feel so much better. The sun is shining for the first time in days and I've been out in my garden enjoying it

[Mari]

Dear Mrs. D,

A couple of us here are on Verapamil.

Does vit D interfere with Verapamil?
Thanks.


Mari

[mrsD]

I found one site...that said "may"...

http://www.evitamins.com/healthnotes...tentID=1538006

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3189539

Vit D has many uses in the body besides calcium absorption and transport.

when it is low, it is prioritized to the bone calicum issues.

This site is very inclusive for Verapamil:
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/drugs/verapamil-131700.htm

I don't think there is a fixed proven answer to your question at this time.
Your use is not involving heart/blood vessel issues, where most of the
research focuses.

What I see Vit D doing is improving calcium absorption in the GI tract.
Much of the supplement forms of calcium are NOT absorbed (about 20-25% only) Vit D does not affect polarization of calcium channels.
When you are low in the diet for calcium the body will rob your bones for it.
The use of the Vit D in proper amounts is to avoid this robbery.

The vitamin D research is focusing on testing and getting people to be in normal range for it. We are not talking mega dosing or extra calcium supplementation.

I then searched the verapamil/mania keyword in PubMed:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum
this was the only one I found that suggested this use is not
effective for many.
The other papers show mixed results.

Until the exact mechanism of calcium disruption in mania is discovered, I don't think there is an answer to the question that is reliable.

I'd get the blood test, to see where you are.

This paper was interesting...shows magnesium improves verapamil response in mania. It just might be the key to improving mania in general! (it improves migraine as well, which is also thought to have a "seizure like" trigger). Magnesium also antagonizes the NMDA receptors for
calcium -- calcium triggering pain, and magnesium blocking it.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum

[Mari]

Mrs. D
Wow.

Thanks for all those links.

I take 1 teaspoon of Magnesium Citrate every night (from the produect Natural Calm). I take it in part to deal with the constipating effects of the Verapamil.
I also hoped that the Magnesium was doing other good things.

Thanks again for the vit D and Verpamil info.

Originally Posted by mrsd

This paper was interesting...shows magnesium improves verapamil response in mania. It just might be the key to improving mania in general! (it improves migraine as well, which is also thought to have a "seizure like" trigger). Magnesium also antagonizes the NMDA receptors for
calcium -- calcium triggering pain, and magnesium blocking it.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum

Good news from that above link:

The magnesium-verapamil combination may have clinical application as an adjunct to verapamil in the maintenance therapy of mania.

Mari

[Nikko]

Vitamin D - The SUN......that is why I feel sooooooooooooooo good when I am in the sun......

Thanks, Nikko